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Discussion in '4th Gen 4Runners (2003-2009)' started by MI-FL off roader, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. Oct 27, 2022 at 1:16 PM
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    Damn! That's a shitty spot to put a starter.
     
  2. Oct 28, 2022 at 2:02 AM
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    Too many mods and too much money
    The 5th gen starter is almost as difficult, you just don't have to pull the intake.
     
  3. Oct 28, 2022 at 5:33 AM
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    Bummer :(
     
  4. Dec 28, 2022 at 7:30 PM
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    Too many mods and too much money
    Well I had a plan for the rear suspension, but I'm not sure it will work. I've been cycling the axle today and don't like what I see.
    So I'm rebuilding my smoothies in case I have to put it back like it was. They would only hold 70psi of nitrogen and were fading quickly. Too hot to touch my last time out, and one of dozens of times they took some serious abuse. These are a Tacoma spec 10" shock and I believe they were valved too light. They weight of the 4Runner just plain overworked em. Oil is pretty much cooked too.
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  5. Dec 28, 2022 at 7:50 PM
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    What's the idea for the new rear set-up?
     
  6. Dec 28, 2022 at 8:05 PM
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    Too many mods and too much money
    I was hoping to put a 14" triple bypass in there, but there is a lot of limiting factors. My lack of knowledge mostly, that and finding up travel is a problem. Droop won't be much more than I have now, and the FJ fuel tank will help with needed clearance for the upper link and drivers side coil. Up travel will be lots of fab work where the pan hard bar contacts the cross member. Then of course the upper shock mount has to go into the cab, which is a big project by itself.
     
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  7. Dec 29, 2022 at 8:56 AM
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    Have you explored the cantilever option?
     
  8. Jan 1, 2023 at 3:22 PM
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    Sorry didn't see this. I did look at Wicked's set up. It is pretty damn slick. But, my skill for installing this would be suspect. There don't seem to be a lot of fab shops around here who have the time or if they do, they're knowledge of this sort of thing is lacking also.

    I heard tuning this set up for off road is an art that not too many have experience with.
     
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  9. Jan 2, 2023 at 4:30 AM
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    Once I started the rebuild on my rear smoothies, I decided to check the valving and see what I have in there. Judging by what I've read in the last three years, these things were valved WAY too light. They are a Tacoma spec length, but are obviously not valved for the weight of the 4Runner or the different rate of a coil compared to a leaf. So new shims have been ordered and we'll see if that cures the tendency to pogo stick in the whoops.
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  10. Jan 2, 2023 at 11:29 AM
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    Shock rebuild is on hold until the shim stacks get here. So I decided to clean the bodies up. Wet sand w 1500 and some simple green. This worked alright considering I only spent a few minutes on them. Got the worst of the corrosion and I'll spray on a coat of engine clear to see if it holds up.
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  11. Jan 2, 2023 at 12:04 PM
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    Last spring I installed the shorter FJ fuel tank to clear up some down travel for the rear suspension. I got it pretty much finalized except for a weak point I left where I had to move the rear strap over to the other side of it's mounting bracket.
    So I found a tab on the upper link cross member that has an 8mm nut welded in there, and then I took some old bed frame and fabbed up a bracket. Should be pretty solid. 20230102_101122.jpg 20230102_103238.jpg 20230102_103315.jpg
     
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  12. Jan 7, 2023 at 6:32 AM
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    The pursuit of more travel for the rear suspension continues. I still want to stuff those 14" bypasses in there, but each time I go to cut some metal, I get skeered. So the current set up will have to do.

    During the process of rebuilding/valving the shocks, I remembered when I ordered these Tacoma spec smoothies, DSM and King were concerned about the 4Runner application. The longer shock would supposedly bring the drivers upper link in contact with the tank. So they put a billet 1/2" top out spacer in there to eliminate some ext length. The Califab upper links open up a little more droop and with the shorter FJ tank, I'm not even close to contact now.

    Well I decided to remove the spacers and install some Limiting Straps.
    McKenzie's for the win.
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    I also decided upon cycling the axle, that I could gain some more up travel. So I did about a 3/4" chop on my Metal Tech bump spacers. Now, in theory, I should gain about 1" of travel up and down, once the limit straps do their stretch. Hopefully this will help it keep up with the front now.

    I did an initial drive on the street last night and I didn't realize how much the lack of valving in the smoothies were affecting the handling. It's much more stable at hwy speeds now with the new shims. Reservoir adjusters are wide open, so I have a lot more compression if I need it.
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