1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

KDMAX-PRO+XT for 4Runners by @PapaRee and @TWTaco.

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by TWTaco, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. Sep 3, 2022 at 2:08 PM
    #61
    PapaRee

    PapaRee KDMax Tuning Group

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28135
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kreg
    Prairieville Louisiana
    KDMax-Pro+XT Tune
    Working at our Hunting camp this weekend in Natchez Mississippi.
    Took a break to tune a 2019 TRD Pro 4Runner with the KDMax-Pro+XT.
    Customer was happy and noticed the improvements as soon as we started the test drive.


    [​IMG]
     
    Saker and TWTaco [OP] like this.
  2. Sep 9, 2022 at 8:44 AM
    #62
    hossler1788

    hossler1788 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2020
    Member:
    #18578
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joshua
    Central Pa
    Vehicle:
    20 4runner
    Getting this tune on Sunday. I'll report back with a review.
     
    TWTaco [OP] and PapaRee like this.
  3. Sep 11, 2022 at 10:47 AM
    #63
    hossler1788

    hossler1788 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2020
    Member:
    #18578
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joshua
    Central Pa
    Vehicle:
    20 4runner
    Heres a quick review of my first impressions of the tune.

    More responsive, the throttle response is improved, and it doesn't need extra throttle to go up a hill. Holds gears longer and shifts are smoother. You can definitely call it an improvement. Its hard to describe, it just runs better.

    I'll report back with a mpg review.

    Its well worth it.
     
  4. Sep 12, 2022 at 9:39 AM
    #64
    PapaRee

    PapaRee KDMax Tuning Group

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28135
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kreg
    Prairieville Louisiana
    KDMax-Pro+XT Tune
    Thanks for the feedback!
    Glad you are liking the KDMax tune. Keep us updated. I am curious to see your MPG's. The 4Runners that we have tuned in the past have all gotten increased MPG's.
     
    TWTaco [OP] likes this.
  5. Sep 12, 2022 at 11:58 AM
    #65
    Rock-N-Roll

    Rock-N-Roll TRD Amateur

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2021
    Member:
    #21037
    Messages:
    188
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2021 T4R ORP w/ KDSS
    I'm trying to get this done but Adam (Denver) hasn't responded to the email yet. Adam also did my tune on my taco through the TW forums. Hoping to get in touch soon to make this happen and hoping he's on some epic vacation. lol

    I'll report back once I do.
     
  6. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:01 PM
    #66
    TWTaco

    TWTaco [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28137
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    PM sent.
     
    Rock-N-Roll likes this.
  7. Sep 12, 2022 at 12:16 PM
    #67
    hossler1788

    hossler1788 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2020
    Member:
    #18578
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joshua
    Central Pa
    Vehicle:
    20 4runner
    Its hard to put the improvements into words. Simply because it feels like a totally different 4r and I'm still running 87 octane. After reading tacomaworlds thread on kd max, im dying to try 93.
     
    elnip, PapaRee and TWTaco [OP] like this.
  8. Sep 12, 2022 at 2:16 PM
    #68
    Magiriano

    Magiriano New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Member:
    #25125
    Messages:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex M.
    Vehicle:
    2022 TRD PRO
    Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA

    Next Edmonton KDMax tuning event is September 16-17 at Sandman Edmonton West.
    Txt 403-483-5858 to book your spot.

    Bring your friend when you get your tune, and 8f they get their truck tuned you each get $50 OFF
     
    PapaRee and TWTaco [OP] like this.
  9. Sep 15, 2022 at 9:25 AM
    #69
    hossler1788

    hossler1788 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2020
    Member:
    #18578
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joshua
    Central Pa
    Vehicle:
    20 4runner
    Review mileage with 87 octane.

    360 miles with the tune so far, just went though my 1st tank of gas. Average 17.8 mpg. My 4r does have 285s but no added weight. Also I've been heavy on the pedal.

    City mileage didnt change much, But I did a 80 mile highway trip at 70-75mph I averaged 21mpg.

    I had some odd shifting when the tune was first installed, turns out I just needed to floor it a couple times, pretty much after the tune the truck needs to relearn how you drive. Now shifting is perfect, it shifts quicker and smoother.

    Throttle response is very sensitive( I love it). It stays in low rpms when cruising at 45mph, but it doesn't bog down. Going up hills is a breeze now, hell some hills the 4r doesn't even need to down shift anymore it just goes.

    The next 2 tanks of gas im going to run 93 octane. From looking at the kdmax dyno charts on tacomaworld, 93 SHOULD be a good improvement in power over 87. So we will see.

    I also ordered an injen intake.... now with the tune I'm starting to drive it harder :)
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2022
    2Toys, PapaRee and Rock-N-Roll like this.
  10. Sep 15, 2022 at 12:51 PM
    #70
    TWTaco

    TWTaco [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28137
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    lillogo.jpg
    Jeff come by this afternoon with his sweet looking 2017 4Runner. Tuned him with Pro+XT. After his test drive he was all smiles.
    The power and acceleration is exactly what he was looking. It was good meeting you Jeff let us know how your enjoying the Pro+XT.

    :cheers:

    4RPro+XT 2.jpg
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2022
    PapaRee likes this.
  11. Sep 16, 2022 at 9:17 AM
    #71
    Rock-N-Roll

    Rock-N-Roll TRD Amateur

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2021
    Member:
    #21037
    Messages:
    188
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2021 T4R ORP w/ KDSS
    I want to give a shout out to TWTaco for helping me get set up with the Colorado tuners. Got an appt for next Wednesday in Denver. :cheers:
     
    PapaRee and TWTaco [OP] like this.
  12. Sep 16, 2022 at 9:24 AM
    #72
    TWTaco

    TWTaco [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28137
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Glad to help James.
    Let us know how you like the Pro+XT.
     
  13. Sep 16, 2022 at 9:25 AM
    #73
    Rock-N-Roll

    Rock-N-Roll TRD Amateur

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2021
    Member:
    #21037
    Messages:
    188
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2021 T4R ORP w/ KDSS
    I certainly will!
     
    PapaRee likes this.
  14. Sep 17, 2022 at 5:37 AM
    #74
    hossler1788

    hossler1788 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2020
    Member:
    #18578
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joshua
    Central Pa
    Vehicle:
    20 4runner
    Wow running 93 octane is great. With 87 it didn't really feel like it gained power, but with 93 .Before getting up to 80mph was a challenge. Now it does it with ease... even hit 100mph(never could do that before).

    I'm loving this tune!
     
  15. Sep 17, 2022 at 1:20 PM
    #75
    TWTaco

    TWTaco [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28137
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Met up with Alfie this morning with his 2015 4x4. Flashed him to KDMAX-Pro+XT after his test drive he immediately felt the power and response.
    Thanks for meeting up with me this morning. Look forward to hearing how you are enjoying the Pro+XT.

    4RPro+XT3.5.jpg
     
    Rock-N-Roll likes this.
  16. Sep 18, 2022 at 9:52 AM
    #76
    hossler1788

    hossler1788 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2020
    Member:
    #18578
    Messages:
    519
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joshua
    Central Pa
    Vehicle:
    20 4runner
    Increases in fuel mileage 93 octane

    20220918_124447.jpg
     
    Rock-N-Roll, PapaRee and TWTaco [OP] like this.
  17. Sep 18, 2022 at 1:19 PM
    #77
    TWTaco

    TWTaco [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28137
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Artie @blksubykid came by this afternoon with his 2013 4x 4Runner. This rig is a beast. Flashed to him the KDMAX-Pro+XT. After his test drive he was very happy. He felt the response and added power and the much smoother shifting. Artie will be heading out on a big trip and will post a review when he returns.
    It was good meeting you Artie You did an excellent build job on your 4Runner.
    :cheers:

    4RPro+XT4.2.jpg 4RPro+XT4.1.jpg 4RPro+XT4.jpg
     
    blksubykid likes this.
  18. Sep 21, 2022 at 3:02 PM
    #78
    PapaRee

    PapaRee KDMax Tuning Group

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28135
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kreg
    Prairieville Louisiana
    KDMax-Pro+XT Tune
    Let us know how you like it.
    Glad Adam was able you get you tuned!
     
    TWTaco [OP] likes this.
  19. Sep 22, 2022 at 8:26 AM
    #79
    Rock-N-Roll

    Rock-N-Roll TRD Amateur

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2021
    Member:
    #21037
    Messages:
    188
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2021 T4R ORP w/ KDSS
    I didn't get to drive it a ton yesterday. I really want to see the shift point change heading up I-70 where the 4R seems to struggle the most. I'll be doing that today.

    I have been running a Pedal Commander on a fairly aggressive setting until the flash. I turned it off on the drive over to meet with Adam. I immediately remembered why I bought it in the first place. Lol

    So, "first" first impressions. The throttle response is where it should be. It also feels like there's a good bump in torque off of the line. I feel more confident jumping into traffic and matching speed.

    While testing in the mountains today, I hope to also refill on the high octane gas. I'm still running 87 right now. Hopefully I can report back on both the shift points and the huge octane changes tonight.
     
    elnip, TWTaco [OP], PapaRee and 2 others like this.
  20. Sep 22, 2022 at 10:09 AM
    #80
    PapaRee

    PapaRee KDMax Tuning Group

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28135
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kreg
    Prairieville Louisiana
    KDMax-Pro+XT Tune
    Thanks James!
    That is what we want- real world feedback/reviews.
     
    TWTaco [OP] likes this.
  21. Sep 22, 2022 at 6:40 PM
    #81
    totmacher

    totmacher New Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2018
    Member:
    #6100
    Messages:
    167
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    West TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5 Nautical Blue
    done some stuff to it
    Do the installers just flash an off-the-shelf tune and send people on their way or is there also test run to confirm trims/AFR/etc and make minor adjustments if needed?
     
  22. Sep 22, 2022 at 8:00 PM
    #82
    TWTaco

    TWTaco [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28137
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    These are custom KDMAX tunes. If you have a specific need we can customize to fit your needs. The tunes have been tested on and offroad. Logging of trims/AFR/etc have been done. If you need a specific change we will make every effort to meet your requests.
     
    totmacher likes this.
  23. Sep 22, 2022 at 10:25 PM
    #83
    Saker

    Saker New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2022
    Member:
    #26498
    Messages:
    99
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    21 Black T4RORP

    PapaRee,

    I'm about 5 mi from your location.
    Would like to see some dyno results for the 5th gen T4R's.
    Maybe have a conversation about what I could expect real world from a tune.
     
    PapaRee likes this.
  24. Sep 22, 2022 at 11:06 PM
    #84
    PapaRee

    PapaRee KDMax Tuning Group

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28135
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kreg
    Prairieville Louisiana
    KDMax-Pro+XT Tune
    I will PM you my contact info.
     
    TWTaco [OP] and Saker like this.
  25. Sep 23, 2022 at 11:09 AM
    #85
    totmacher

    totmacher New Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2018
    Member:
    #6100
    Messages:
    167
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    West TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5 Nautical Blue
    done some stuff to it
    Sounds good. In that case, throttle pedal sensitivity is what i wonder might need tweaked if i get a tune. Wife seems to lack finesse on her right foot. Thought she was gonna blow the motor or burn out the clutch blasting revs off the limiter on the last car i had a tune on (was a custom, not kdmax tune, on scion frs)
     
    TWTaco [OP] likes this.
  26. Sep 23, 2022 at 3:16 PM
    #86
    Rock-N-Roll

    Rock-N-Roll TRD Amateur

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2021
    Member:
    #21037
    Messages:
    188
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2021 T4R ORP w/ KDSS

    I can confirm that the throttle sensitivity can be changed. By default, you get the max setting (Or I did, anyway) and Adam offered to adjust it if I wanted.
     
    totmacher and TWTaco [OP] like this.
  27. Sep 23, 2022 at 3:23 PM
    #87
    Rock-N-Roll

    Rock-N-Roll TRD Amateur

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2021
    Member:
    #21037
    Messages:
    188
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2021 T4R ORP w/ KDSS
    Second first impressions:

    I never burned enough gas to get the higher octane gas into the tank but I did take it up into the mountains and I definitely have a sense of not having to fight so hard to keep my speed up on inclines especially at highway speeds (70-75mph), and this is in comparison to the 4Runner before the tune with the pedal commander on a fairly aggressive throttle setting. The pedal commander is still plugged in but I turned it off before the tune and it has stayed off. I will pull it out at some point when I have an afternoon freed up.

    I feel that the shifting is smoother overall but have no idea if shift points moved or if it's just a change in logic. The one thing I can say is that my 4Runner had this nasty habit of not wanting to shift back into 5th gear after a long incline once the road started leveling back out. It no longer seems to have that issue. Thank goodness because it was the one thing I really hated about the shifting.

    I'm not terribly far away from filling the tank back up with the good stuff but I work weekend so I'm hoping I can comment on the difference in gas/performance sometime later next week.
     
    TWTaco [OP], PapaRee and hossler1788 like this.
  28. Sep 26, 2022 at 11:03 AM
    #88
    sympley76

    sympley76 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2022
    Member:
    #28774
    Messages:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4Runner Limited
    Any love for GTA area in Canada (Toronto, Hamilton, Mississauga)? Would love to get the tune. Will 91 octane be available.
     
  29. Sep 26, 2022 at 11:17 AM
    #89
    PapaRee

    PapaRee KDMax Tuning Group

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2022
    Member:
    #28135
    Messages:
    25
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kreg
    Prairieville Louisiana
    KDMax-Pro+XT Tune
    Nobody in that area. Closest is Michigan.
    You can run 91 octane. The tune is Octane learning.
    The DIY Remote tuning kit is an option. Contact Chris if you are interested.
    upload_2022-9-26_13-16-29.jpg
     
    TWTaco [OP] likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top