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Is -44 offset possible with 3inch lift

Discussion in '5th Gen Builds (2010+)' started by Dillen808, Jan 3, 2019.

  1. Jan 3, 2019 at 9:06 PM
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    Hi I just wondering if it would be possible to do 20x10 -44 offset for my 2018 4runner with a 3inch rough country lift installed?

    Or will i only be able to do a 20x10 -24 offset?

    I will be putting
    RBP Repulsor MT 33x12.50R20LT(LOAD E)

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  2. Jan 3, 2019 at 9:26 PM
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    Get your sawzall ready.

    Neither offset is going to fit without lots of modification on a 3” lift.
     
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  3. Jan 3, 2019 at 9:57 PM
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    Minor trimming for this here? So my -24 will work with minor trimming

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    Good luck to you sir
     
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    To you to I will keep you posted on the new wheels and tires
     
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    Well there you go they fit

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    How's the rub at full lock in forward/reverse? When tucked? I just noticed that in your convo with the seller, they mentioned a 2WD SR5- if yours is 4WD you might have rubbing that they didn't.
     
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  9. Jan 10, 2019 at 7:25 AM
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    on custom wheel offset they show ones with 4wd to, minor rub at full turn only if going over a bump
     
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    Here we go

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    Dillen, you might want to remedy any rub that you do have, even if it seems like a minor thing that only occurs in uncommon situations. If you're only rubbing a slight bit on the plastic liner, you *might* not damage anything over time. If you're rubbing on metal, you could end up with serious damage should you ignore it, maybe even causing a catastrophic failure at speed.

    Glad to see that your setup mostly worked for you, though. Enjoy your ride!
     
  12. Jan 11, 2019 at 5:20 PM
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    NO rubbing on any plastic, only at full turn when you hit a bump......
     
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    Many people have the misconception that lifting a 5th gen gives you more tire clearance, that’s simply not possibly with the design of the IFS.
     
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    What do you even have?
     
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    In reference to what? Suspension?
     
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    Yes lift or wheels?
     
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    Let’s see a picture
     
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    I don’t see how what I have is relevant to my statement but sure...6987507E-6B60-43AC-9BBC-B39239367B48.jpg

    Extended travel King suspension, Icon 2” rear springs, JBA upper control arms, with 33.3” tires on TuRD Pro wheels.

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    You don’t have a offset rim.....
    Try to put 33.3 with offset rim on stock height
     
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    What I have does not change the fact that a lift does not create clearance.

    As I said it’s a common misconception that a lift gives you tire clearance, but that is just not true with the 4Runner’s IFS. There’s 4 movements for a wheel/tire - steering left, steering right, full suspension compression, and full suspension droop. There is a fixed range of motion throughout any combination of those movements. When you lift it you do nothing to change the range of motion and in turn, the space the tore can occupy. You’re just changing the static location of the tire inside that same range of motion which means you did nothing to add more clearance.


    Let’s say you have 8” of total suspension travel and that at static ride height when stock you have 4” of available up travel and 4” of available down travel. Now you lift it 2”, you didn’t create more room, you just made it so the static ride height moved up within the same 8” range. You would now have 6” of up travel available and only 2” of down. If a bigger tire rubbed at stock ride height while turning right and you lift it, you did not fix the rubbing, you just changed when it happens (when turning right with X amount of braking the wheel will be in the exact spot it rubbed at before and will still rub all the same). Lifting it can change the conditions in which it runs but it’s impossible for it to add clearance.


    You need to change the space the tire will occupy compared to the stock to actually create more clearance - that can be done with changes in tire width and diameter, wheel offset, different suspension geometry, the location of the lower control arms via the alignment adjust cams, etc. Shock length and aftermarket upper control arms can change the range of motion, and bump stops can be used to reduce the range of motion upwards to keep from stuffing a bigger tire into the fender. There’s lots of things and a lots of variables that will help you clear a bigger tire but on independent front suspension, with all else equal, ride height is not one of them.
     
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    Your front wheels look very far forward in the wheel wells - what is your caster?
     
  22. Jan 18, 2019 at 6:42 PM
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    That’s awesome I’ll keep that in mind:)
     
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