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Installation of a PML Deep Transmission Pan

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by josephp732, Jul 3, 2022.

  1. Jul 3, 2022 at 2:09 PM
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    josephp732

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    On my 2021 TRD ORP I changed out the factory transmission pan to a PML deep transmission pan.

    Parts:
    • PML Transmission pan - Part Number: 11112 (Toyota A750E/A750F deep transmission pan – powder coated)
    • Toyota transmission filter, O-Ring and Pan Gasket Part Numbers: 35330-60050, 90301-31014, 35168-60010
    • Two 4-liter jugs Ravenol ATF Fluid T-WS
    • Anti-seize (for the new pans Gold Plug magnetic drain plug)
    • Thread sealant (for the new pans level check hole)
    • Blue Loctite 242 (for the new transmission pan bolts)

    Tools:
    • Various socket wrenches
    • 24mm socket for factory transmission fill plug
    • 10mm socket for factory transmission pan bolts
    • 5mm hex socket for PML transmission pan bolts
    • Torque wrench
    • OBD-II scanner
    • Infrared Thermometer Gun
    • Brake cleaner
    • Transmission oil recycling jug
    • Fluid pump
    • Lots of paper towels

    Start to finish a little less than 3 hours.

    Casualties: two small burns from the catalytic converter by the factory transmission fill plug, transmission fluid drippage on my face and a drop or two in my eye.

    Biggest surprise: how dark the Toyota WS fluid was, the metal flakes in the original filter and the amount of clutch material in the pan. (See Pictures). The OBD-II scanner reading 113 degrees while the infrared thermometer gun reading 104 degrees across most of the new pan. (Both within Toyota’s spec range).

    Hardest part: trying to hold the new PML pan up with my noodle arms while getting a couple of starter bolts in. (Hind sight - would have best to have a buddy)

    About 3 quarts drained out of the factory drain plug and when I dropped the pan, I was a bit surprised to find about a quart still in the pan.

    I refilled the new pan from the factory fill hole adding 6 quarts of the Ravenol ATF before the fluid started to run out of the new pans level check hole. I then ran the truck and followed standard Toyota procedures. Reopening the level check hole, I needed about a third of a quart then did the procedure again. This time a small amount of fluid ran out. All in I gained +2 quarts of capacity. On my 5k motor oil change I’ll drain out ~2.2 quarts of trans fluid and refill with what I have left over.

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  2. Jul 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM
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    Cool. That’s a lot of pan! Seems like aftermarket skid plates would be able accommodate it. This is a toyota part? What’s it off of?
     
  3. Jul 3, 2022 at 3:56 PM
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    Cool mod, I may have missed it, but is there an fluid pickup extension to account for the deeper pan?
     
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    According to PML the fluid level in the pan is exactly the same as the stock pan so the factory pick-up and filter functions the same. This is consistence with other deep transmission pans that I have installed from MAG-HYTEC & aFe Power for Ford and Chevy transmissions - they also did not come with any pick-up extensions.
     
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  6. Jul 3, 2022 at 5:00 PM
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    Cool thanks,

    so the advantage is having more fluid capacity which could lower fluid temperatures?

    This sounds similar to race cars that have extended oil pans.
     
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  7. Jul 5, 2022 at 8:06 AM
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    Trying to match the same environmental's as the readings before the swap out - my scanner is now reading over a 10 degree drop in the transmission fluid temperature readings from both of the transmission fluid temperature sensors.

    About 30 mins of local in town stop and go driving with the A/C on Max and the truck in 4WD hi, out side temp was 88 degrees.
    Stock transmission pan: Coolant temp: 192 / Engine oil temp: 162 / A/T Oil temp 1: 168 / A/T Oil temp 2: 177
    PML transmission pan: Coolant temp: 191 / Engine oil temp: 161 / A/T Oil temp 1: 156 / A/T Oil temp 2: 166

    I would attribute the drop in temperatures more to the fact that the PML pan has much more mass, has cooling fins and is effectively a large heat sink compared to the stock pan.

    I don't believe that adding the additional 2 quart's of capacity would have much of an effect on cooling the fluid but I do think the additional capacity helps extend the life of the fluid.
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2022
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