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Ignition Fuse Popping

Discussion in '3rd Gen 4Runners (1996-2002)' started by Red5.0fox, May 23, 2025 at 1:33 PM.

  1. May 23, 2025 at 1:33 PM
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    This one should be fun. On the way back from a beach trip this past Tuesday, with the woman I married Friday, the 4 runner broke. Rolling up to a stop sign, it just died suddenly. After some searching, I noticed the ignition fuse was blown. Figured it could just be a couple wires behind the box, and I did find some small tears. Taped, separated, new fuse, no problems. Drove it up to Charlotte Thursday (3 hour trip) with 0 issues. Once we got to the house, we decided to get lunch. On our way, it died again. Same fuse. Messed with it and separated the wires again, and after a few attempts, it roars back to life. We get home, and hours later decide to get dinner. I get in the car, turn the key, pop. And it’s been here since. We’ve been messing with it and I have gotten it to start a few different times, but it always pops again at some point. I have 0 specific factors for you all that could be causing it. I thought it was bumpy roads at first until we got to the house and it kept doing it. Turn the key to “on” and it pops.

    I’ve unplugged the passenger side ECM, Alternator, gauge cluster, and the efi relay. No change. I had a diagram of the fuse and it says it powers the “generator, airbags, charging warning light, combination meter, and efi relay” which is why I unplugged some of these things. I don’t see any burnt up wires anywhere, and I’m at a loss. Stranded at my brother in-law’s, only a select few tools, no transportation to the store (he’s out of town), and a $300-$400 trip home even with triple a. Someone give me an idea lol.

    1. Trailer Brake
    2. Aux Beam
    3. Underhood light
    4. Lightbar/ditch lights
    5. Radio
    6. Amp/sub
    7. Aftermarket taillights
    8. CB radio
    9. Maybe some other stuff? Can’t remember at this point

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    You'll need a multimeter to check for a short to ground, but you definitely have a short going on. Somewhere there is a bare wire rubbing another bare wire or the chassis.

    That image is unreadable.

    What is the fuse name that is popping? What is it labeled in the fuse box and its location?
     
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    I put it in the title, it’s labeled “ign”, otherwise, ignition fuse. The image must lose some quality when I upload it here
     
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    Yeah, the site is resizing the images.

    Regardless, that fuse goes freaking everywhere. I think you'll need to check for shorts starting at the fuse and ruling out various circuits at the different junctions. You may have to unpin some connectors to narrow it down.
     
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    I uploaded the full sized images in a zip file. They should be easier to read.
     

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    If I read things right, you mostly have that fuse going to B-R and B-L wires. B-R = Black with Red Stripe. B-L Black with Blue Stripe.

    ....and I found a little more:

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    I’ve unplugged just about everything. VSC module, airbag module, ecm, starter relay, and maybe some other stuff I’m forgetting. Still stumped. Can’t even find a car to rent to get home and we’re stuck 3 hours away lol.
     
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    It touches the ECM (like four times), Stop Light Switch, COR, Combination meter, Ignition Switch, Noise Filter, 3 Coils, alternator, and a few other things.

    I don't see the air bags though.
     
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    If I unplug the ignition switch, it doesn’t short, but I imagine that’s because the circuit no longer gets power. Maybe I’m wrong though, and the ignition switch is a problem?
     
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    Do you have anything aftermarket hooked to this circuit? On those color wires?

    Aftermarket electronics are evil things that destroy everything they touch.

    It sounds like you don't have a multimeter...can you rig a test light? Pull a headlight bulb and hook wires up to it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfk-vmeK4G0
     
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    If you look at the first schematic I posted, the ignition switch is before the fuse...so yes, the fuse doesn't have power. It's what's after the fuse that's causing the issue.
     
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    I have a test light. I do have a multimeter, it’s my emergency one. To be specific, it’s harbor freights 7 function one for like $6. Nothing aftermarket wired into this circuit that I know of, I listed it all in my first post.
     

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