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How to disconnect the tracking telemetry on the 5th gen 4Runner

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by zerosignal, Jun 13, 2021.

  1. Mar 14, 2022 at 2:05 PM
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    Singleminded

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    Good news for the owners of 4Runners MY 19 and older: the telco companies are taking care of this problem for you. You’ve got a 3G connection and all the cellular companies are pulling down their 3G equipment, meaning your truck won’t be able to connect to the network and thus to the internet.

    Another reason I wish I had a 19 :rolleyes:

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g39301678/3g-internet-sunset-cars/
     
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  2. Mar 14, 2022 at 3:29 PM
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    It’s the way of this new world! And that’s not even the fine print! Im sure it says somewhere that you agree to let them change this “agreement” at any point without notice. It’s standard boiler plate language. The game is rigged!

    @ElectroBoy ‘s point about people griping about government control is a good point (also a concern I share).

    I certainly hope those that gripe about that gov control also understand how completely out of control the tech sector has gotten. If people share these concerns with their representatives, then maybe we stand a chance to preserve the concept and importance of respecting the individual persons rights to privacy. I know it’s a scary word…but “we the people” may need to to demand more “burdensome regulations” on the tech/business sector, in order to protect the individual unit of government (which is the individual person).

    Unfortunately, I don’t see many people nowadays that understand, much less articulate why individual privacy is even an important thing to preserve.

    In fact, when the topic of privacy and tracking/data collection by the tech/business sector comes up, it’s with mindblowing regularity, that the most vocal complainers of government “intrusion”, are the first to say “I have nothing to hide! What’s the big deal?”

    Maybe that’s because people havent applied logic to their own thoughts in order to be consistent their own opinions.

    Or it’s because we’ve been trained to simply parrot opinions fed to us without any further critical thought? Either way, it’s a problem.
     
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  3. Mar 15, 2022 at 5:43 AM
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    Not sure if it's the best solution, but the other day I was driving through snow/slush and had PCS warning light meaning that system is disabled. Upon close inspection I found that front radar sensor was covered with some frozen slush. So I guess if you want to disable pre-collision systems for good you might cover radar sensor with something, maybe painted black tinfoil for example.
     
  4. Mar 15, 2022 at 6:34 AM
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    Thanks for posting this article. It's nice to see that the EU is taking privacy issues head-on. I can only hope it is getting some "important" people's attention here in the US as well.

    This is something I was considering as well. Hopefully I will never have to take it to a dealership, but that's probably unlikely.

    I found this very informative article a while back. It's from 2019, and it involves hacking into a 2017 vehicle (Chevy) to see what kind and how much data are stored in its various onboard computers. Turns out it's a lot, and they even found information from the previous owner of the car. So it's very likely that even without live transmission, the data are stored in almost perpetuity, and likely easily accessed by vehicle manufacturers or dealers. Just something else to consider when selling or trading in your "smart" vehicl.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...-car-know-about-you-we-hacked-chevy-find-out/

    Just as an update to everyone else, I have had the DCM fuse pulled for 3 months now and all seems good. No CELs or other problems, and I haven't seen the signal icon light up once. The app was also not being updated with mileage or other info either. One thing I found interesting in the fine print for the Toyota App was that data is transmitted via your cell phone when you hook it up to the vehicle via bluetooth. This appears to only be the case if you have the Toyota App installed on your phone, which made me decide to uninstall it (I was using it to see if it would update vehicle info after pulling the fuse). I'm not being a chicken-little here, I just found it odd that there was no way to opt out without just uninstalling the app. It also makes me wonder what kind of data is transmitted when using Android Auto or Carplay.
     
  5. Apr 26, 2022 at 7:10 PM
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    I'm getting closer to my 2022 4Runner order being filled. Has anyone had any more luck removing the SIM card from the DCM? I plan to opt out of all the data tracking services I can, but like others here, I'd like to physically disable it from my end, if possible. If nothing else, I'll disconnect the antenna and hope for the best.
     
  6. Apr 26, 2022 at 7:26 PM
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    Not so far as I know. And antenna disconnect only seems to work in areas with weak cell signals. Just like your phone doesn’t need a long antenna, it seems the DCM can pick up strong signals on its own.

    The only solid solution I’ve seen is to pull the fuse on the DCM. Only downside for sure is loss of the cabin microphone. As others have posted, it seems you can disable the DCM this way for months before any error messages about the DCM battery dying. Indeed, I don’t think we’re sure such a message would ever appear on a 4R using the pulled fuse method.
     
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  7. May 23, 2022 at 8:35 PM
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    Ya'll must be going to and doing some very important things
     
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    fun thread :popcorn:
     
  9. May 24, 2022 at 4:01 PM
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    Why do we want Toyota to hear us swear at dumb people on the road & log that we floored the vehicle to pass them thus putting that person on the bad driver list to report to a insurance company and decline any warranty work due to ‘racing of vehicle’ hahhhhh
     
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    yes.
     
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    We just had lockdowns last year and who knows what future brings us. What could be more important than freedom : )
     
  12. Jun 16, 2022 at 10:14 AM
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    I think I am now a lucky one, recently mine has pretty much not been working. Just got back from a 70 mile round trip didn’t get signal once! Lets hope.

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  13. Jun 21, 2022 at 2:28 PM
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    The major carriers have, or will be turning off 3G service. Won't this affect the telematics on a lot of vehicles?
     
  14. Jun 21, 2022 at 2:41 PM
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