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**Brand New Morimoto XB Evo Headlights are here!

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by memario1214, Aug 22, 2024.

  1. Aug 22, 2024 at 8:37 AM
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    memario1214

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    We've been secretly working with Morimoto over here at Hotshot Offroad helping develop their newest headlights for the 14-24 4Runner. We've had a set on a truck here for a few months testing out light output and patterning, a lens heater feature, among other things!

    Well, the day has come for the newest XB EVO Headlights to be here!
    https://hotshotoffroad.com/products/xb-evo-led-headlights-14-24-toyota-4runner

    • Full Design Refresh - Brand new DRL piping, projector arrangement, and light/dark accents throughout.
    • New Optics - A fresh optics design allows for aiming the beam much closer to vertical without blinding oncoming traffic. It makes for a MUCH more comfortable driving experience vs the hard cutoff lines before. We worked directly with Morimoto in an attempt to perfect uplight allowing for earlier detection of downrange obstacles as well as illuminating road signs earlier and better. Overall output is far improved in terms of perceived brightness, even on the base LED driver.
    • New Supercharger LED Driver System - While not on-road compliant, a new "supercharger" LED driver is available as an add-on that boosts intensity by 30%.
    • Built-in Lens Heater - In ambient temperatures below 41F, an on-board lens heater system can be turned on to allow for active clearing of the lens. We were getting lens temps of around 80F when ambient was in the 20s. The unit definitely works!
    • Selectable DRL and Turn Signals - With a quick swap of a little "key" you can pick whether you want a white or amber DRL. You can also select whether you would like a sequential turn signal, or a fade off turn signal. We're big fans of the fade off version over here!
    • 5-Yr Warranty

    HSO-2.jpg mm-toyota-4runner-14-24_xb-evo.jpg mm-toyota-4runner-14-24_xb-evo-headlights.jpg
     
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  2. Aug 22, 2024 at 12:22 PM
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    $1,500 for a stylistic upgrade :poking:
     
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    A fool and his money......
     
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    Wonder how these compare the the OEM LEDs. Regardless, $1500 for head lights is steep
     
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  5. Aug 22, 2024 at 6:54 PM
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    Great, now I have to change my lights again.
     
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    a video would’ve been cool especially of the startup sequence
     
  7. Aug 23, 2024 at 8:09 AM
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    3JOH22A

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    Hey it's cheaper than a Prinsu rack with ladder and Rotopax mounted on it, which for most 4Runner owners are a stylistic upgrade for mall crawling.

    I should note these headlights have a longer warranty than Toyota's.
     
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    the price needs to be half of what it is now to be reasonable
     
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    These are on par with OEM LED prices and have more features.

    Unrelated, but aren't you the guy that boasts about blinding other drivers with your fog lights? Not sure you're really the authority on lighting. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Aug 23, 2024 at 10:05 AM
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    While they are a stylistic upgrade for sure (as many vehicle modifications are) these definitely are more than only that. It's one of the few lamps that can say that they are more than just something that looks different. They've got greater output than even the stock OEM LED, and the on-road profile is better to boot. This is one of the graphics that MM has shared. I'm not sure what the "rating" is though as there's no legend to compare it against. Having been behind the wheel of a set of these though the actual down-range visibility is much improved. Also, depending no where someone lives these are the only lamps on the market that have the ability to clear the lenses of snow/ice buildup. No other LED housing can do that.

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    The fact that the design is purposefully addressing the “sharp cut-off” issues of the stock LEDs is commendable.

    Having usable and controlled “light bleed” pattern that doesn’t blind oncoming traffic, and doesn’t create a “black hole” effect for the driver outside of the lighted area is waaaay more important than pure light intensity metrics.

    Yeah, it’s crazy these lights are so expensive, but at least it sounds like some real thought was put into the design.

    How will these lights be wired? Reality dictates that some of these lights will eventually have internal component failures. The heating elements will also draw much more than the previous designs. If these lights rely on tapping existing electrical circuits, I’d worry about damaging the stock electrical system, or tripping codes if it uses circuits that are being monitored by an ECU for specific voltages/currents. It seems some effort has already been put into designing the lighting quality of these, so it would be nice to see the same effort put into a safe, reliable wiring scheme that protects the factory electrical system, even if it means a more complex installation.
     
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  12. Aug 23, 2024 at 2:17 PM
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    These lights come with unique plug and play harnesses that are specific to each application - OE LED, LED Hi/Halogen Low, Halogen Lo/Hi all in the box. The incoming OE wiring gauge is the same across all models, but of course with different plugs depending on the lamp.

    One of the very first things I checked when I got the prototype units was the power draw as I had to know as well. An OE halogen low beam bulb pulls approx 55W. On the XB Evos low beam came in at 25W, and high beam came in at 32W. I just checked it today, and with the supercharger module installed, DRLs on, and heater activated peak draw came in at 47W.
     
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    What do stock LEDs pull?
     
  14. Aug 23, 2024 at 2:35 PM
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    I didn't have a set here to test, but I can confidently say it'll be less than halogen! I did ask Morimoto if they could get that for me for my own records, but haven't heard back quite yet. I have my guess sitting around 22-23W for low beam, but I don't have any hard data there.
     
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    Thanks, I agree. I’m wondering what it is in comparison to these lights.
     
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    Morimoto boys just shot me a text and said that OEM LED high beam is 24W. They're going to give me full logs on Monday, but low beam is going to come in lower than that of course.
     
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    Oooh look, another mod.....
    I'm trying to be a fiscally responsible adult and pay off my 4Runner early. But I when see threads like that, it doesn't help! C'mon bro, help me hang on to my money.

    ...those are some reaaaaaaaaaaally nice lights.
     
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    :anonymous:

    But seriously I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money. They're a super cool product that I personally got to play a part in which makes me extra hot on them. If it works for your aesthetic and your budget I say party on. If and when the time is right we'd love to earn the business if you decide to get them!
     
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    Group buy?
     
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    I 2nd this!!!!!
     
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    Get them over to crash for some real testing and then I’d be interested
     
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    I have a 2023 with LEDs and hard to digest Halogen DRL design. I say design because I can convert them to LEDs but still a shitty and outdated design. Still 1,400 is way too much. Not a huge difference between OEM LED low and high beams. If I had all halogen setup it would make much more sense. If you have money to burn, be my guest, one thing for sure, they´re eye candy!
     
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    Ha they just came out boys! These are a MAP restricted product, and I'm unfortunately not the manufacturer. Just a guy who happens to sell them and helped out with R&D. We could maybe do something where we do a "group buy" in that the more people we get on an order I can offer increasingly larger Hotshot Offroad gift cards, or give away something else :notsure:. I unfortunately am not allowed to directly discount the product though.
    Ryland (Crash) and I are actually good friends. That's been part of the plan all along! :cool:
    I definitely understand the high cost associated with a purchase such as this. For reference, if you were to head down to the dealership and purchase OEM LED headlights brand new the price point is around $1,600 if you shop around, and you still will need to get a wiring adapter to make them work on a truck not originally equipped with them. Of course, there are going to be plenty of classifieds and ebay listings to be able to get a takeoff set cheaper. I'm just pointing out that the price isn't "that" lofty when compared to its competition. Add in the fact that Morimoto offers (and we honor) a paid to trade program where even your halogen headlights could be worth a couple hundred dollars, it helps bring the initial hit down. The current going rate for a set of halogen takeoffs, is $75. It was $225 last week, but I am guessing there are a handful of folks leveraging this for the new heads. It fluctuates up and down.

    Having driven plenty of miles with these headlights I can confidently say that unlike nearly all other aftermarket headlights these are more than just a different looking housing. They provide a true improvement to downfield visibility over all other options, and the high beam is a vast improvement over anything else I have ever seen. We understand that they're not for everyone, but for those who want a different look than stock they are the only option I would personally recommend over OEM LED.
     
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    For my wife’s GLE Mercedes-Benz the OEM unit was $450 :D This is a joke.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your experience coming from oem LEDs. I personally have had previous vehicles with very bad lights, when I got the 4Runner I was happy with how good the LEDs output is. So that´s maybe why I´m hesitant to take the plunge. But if I ever upgrade this will be the ones to get. They look darn good, the sequential turn signal looks amazing and modern.


     
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    Is the add a fuse needed for trucks with LED headlights already?
     
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    Yes, you want a switched 12 volt source so the DRLs on the Evo lamps do stay on all the time when the switch is on or the vehicle running.
     
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    I'm assuming the supercharger be installed/uninstalled without removing the headlights?
     
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    Yes it can. It's accessible with just the hood popped open.
     
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    Sorry, there isn't $1,500 worth of upgrade here.

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