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Blackstone Oil Analysis

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by HazOpRed, Nov 28, 2023.

  1. Nov 28, 2023 at 10:11 AM
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    HazOpRed

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    For whoever is interested. Was aiming for a 7.5k oil change here.

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  2. Nov 28, 2023 at 2:36 PM
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    Fishhead74

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    What brand oil?
     
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    I want to know too. I am at 5k miles and have done 3 oil changes already, Toyota 0W20 lol
     
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    Jynarik

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    Respectfully, any oil sent in under 10k miles on the sample is going to be similar or same result, no matter the oil.
     
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    So Toyota additives come into play after 10k miles?
     
  6. Nov 28, 2023 at 6:33 PM
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    I know oil threads are cheese…
    Was just curious.
    I change my oil just to change my oil and then.
    If my rig sits a lot or gets used for short trips often, I change my oil under the manual’s recommendation or at 3k, or 6 months or less if going on a road trip if the oil has been sitting in it. My Venture basically sat in the garage while driving Tacomas. Those days are gone. Maybe a low mile second gen, maybe. Haha.
    I’ve been using Toyota oil for the heck of it.
    It may be a waste but oh well.
     
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    Solid oil that came from Japan :p
     
  8. Nov 28, 2023 at 7:01 PM
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    HazOpRed

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    Respectfully, not true
     
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    Pennzoil Synthetic. Not the ultra synthetic. I am going ultra synthetic 5w-30 this coming summer. Wanted some numbers for comparison. So this will be a long running comparison
     
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    I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for
     
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    This would be more meaningful if you posted the total mileage on your T4R. Also what your oil change interval is.
     
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  12. Nov 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM
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    I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with that abbreviation. Or maybe I'm just not all there. A little help please.
     
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    Jynarik

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    you’re not gaining anything from this report other than possible unlikely engine issues on your low mileage ‘22, but you do you.
     
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    Because having a baseline is meaningless. I would have loved to see my 200k engines with a baseline test when they were good. Some people
     
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    Wheres the 2K oil change guys at?
     
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    Blackstone themselves say, "Oil is oil." From their FAQs page:
    ==
    What’s the best oil to use?
    Ah, the million dollar question. We are an independent lab, so we don’t make recommendations. It has been our experience that oil is oil, and either petroleum or synthetic-based oil will work well for just about any engine.
    ==

    My interpretation isn't that there's no difference between oils. It's that there's no significant difference in wear or performance as long as the oil used meets the manufacturer's recommendations and is changed at the prescribed intervals. We feel better buying what we feel are superior brands, but the cold, hard truth is that the engine couldn't care less. It's kind of like TV resolution - 4K, 8K, what's next? There comes a point where the human eye can't see a difference anymore.
     
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  17. Nov 29, 2023 at 7:10 PM
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    Interesting... moly on stock TGMO 0w20 is 721ppm and starting TBN 6.8 (VOA's on BITOG) ... I mean its just me, but I will be sticking with the Toyota oil IMO. Call me old school but moly will always be the anti-wear additive of choice for me ((shrugs))
     
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  18. Nov 30, 2023 at 6:50 AM
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    Agreed, in the old days(I’m old)I would do every 3K but now with the modern oils that are far superior to the old stuff I do 5K which might still be over-kill. I coordinate changes with the odometer readings on all my vehicles, 10k, 15k, 20k….etc…easier for a old dried out brain to remember.
    Project Farm verified my thoughts on the age of the oil as well, Todd tested brand new Rotella and again after a year in his Ram diesel and it showed no degradation at all.
    Wow you have 40k already! My 22 garage queen has just a little over 5K. I only drive it when the wife comes along. BTW, I’m retired.
     
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    Yeah, but what about the 6 quart box from Walmart of Havoline? $25.
     
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    That’s what I use.
     
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    Never had OCD over engine oil, certainly never shipped it off to a lab...change oil and filter on a regular basis, address any leaks if they come up and you'll be fine. Evidence-based practice...over the years, I keep vehicles to around 200k miles, sometimes way more. Never had one engine issue. I'm just an average idiot but we have a real live petroleum engineer in the family who's done the same thing,same results.
     
  22. Dec 2, 2023 at 7:30 PM
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    Wouldn't be afraid of it. Walmart brand oil is actually perfectly fine too. Don't lose sleep over oil lol
     
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    Agree, including not sending oil for analysis unless you plan to keep the vehicle, as I do, until either it or I can't get out of the garage anymore. :cool: In that case, having a baseline as the miles go by (my '07 will hit 250K miles in the next few weeks) may tip you off to actual or potential issues. Is it necessary? Arguably not, but I'm willing to invest $30 every 100K miles for the potential of it being the proverbial canary in the coal mine.
     
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    Long time no oil analysis. Here is two more for y'alls viewing pleasure with 1 more on the way. I will withhold the brand of 5w40 for *suspense

    Blackstone2.jpg
     
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    This is pretty cool to track this stuff. My line work is in this industry :gossip:, so I tend to look at this from a distance and without too much opinions, but glad folks are tracking this analysis overtime, that is the key, you have to look at the trends for a good amount of time. I am curious, what octane are you using and is always the same because you could argue octane has a lot to do with this analysis. Keep it up!
     
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    Looks good. You could probably push it to 10K.

    Don't generalize this to winter driving, especially if you don't warm up the engine and/or have a short commute.
     
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    With the higher calcium levels, it looks like a European formulation........but most 5w-40's are Euro formulations anyways.

    My understanding is that some oil companies have dropped the calcium content in their Euro formulations to also meet API standards.

    So the question is, who is still using high calcium levels in their Euro oil and is not API certified?

    Amsoil?
     
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    Do yourself a favor and give Speediagnostix.com a shot. For better explanation, see Lake Speed Jr./Valvoline videos on you tube. I use Valvoline Restore & Protect Synthetic Oil and recommend it. People will have and use their favorites but research and watching the videos help explain.
     
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    Because of Lake's videos, I've been using Restore and Protect the last 3 oil changes......as well as using a bottle of Chevron w/ Techron Fuel System cleaner once every oil change. I always use 87 octane BTW.

    Before doing such I was consistently getting 15.9mpgs. Now I'm consistently getting 16.9mpgs. It wasn't an overnight change but a gradual increase in mpg's ever since I started this regiment.

    As of right now, I'm a believer in Restore and Protect and the occasional use of a fuel system cleaner.

    I plan to do an oil analysis around 150k and compare it to my 75k analysis.
     
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    How exactly do you go about getting this oil analysis done? Do you send them a sample on your own or they provide a sample cup etc?
     
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