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Agent_Outside: Adventures in a 4Runner Limited

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by Agent_Outside, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. May 5, 2020 at 11:37 AM
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    I did research it a lot and didn’t really find any bad reviews that weren’t Karen complaints. Even so I was still pretty skeptical as well so I bought it through REI because you can use it and return it if you’re not happy. It’s a contained fire so there will be less sideways heat than a traditional open fire pit but that’s not to say all the heat goes up, for example it was in the 20’s Halloween night and we were standing around hanging out giving out candy and shots with the neighbors until about 1am. But, losing some of the heat is a characteristic of enclosed flame, there’s no way around that. In my opinion its one of the only negatives, but at the same time with a 4 year old that likes to roast marshmallows and be around campfires he can get close enough to actually roast marshmallows himself without cooking his face off, he can’t always do that in a fire pit when we go camping. It also allows you to use it more places, with significantly less risk of a fire spreading and it’s not really effected by wind. Either way the positives far outweigh the negative, we love it. It’s such a clean efficient fire, it’s fed oxygen from beneath and then you get the secondary burn at the top. When you start the fire there’s smoke until it really catches and gets going (a few minutes) but once it is going, as long as the wood doesn’t protrude out the top past the ring it really is smokeless, like to the point that it doesn’t seem like it should be possible to burn that clean and smoke free. Plus once the fire burns itself out there is almost nothing left, it’s such a complete burn there’s never partial chunks of charred logs, it’s basically all just powdered white ash and an amazingly small amount of it. The one night we burned 16 pieces of firewood and there was like a handful, maybe 2, of ash in the bottom. The only other potential downside is that because it’s enclosed you want to let it burn out, not douse it with water, so it does require a little bit of baby sittings when you’re ready to be done unless you spring for the expensive spark arrestor to make sure it can’t pop embers out. It is pricey but I would absolutely buy it again. It’s held up well but you need to be reasonable with expectations, it’s stainless steel but it the bottom grate inside is absolutely going to shot in no time and the barrel is going to discolor, most of the. Implants are found were people upset that their fire pit didn’t stay looking like a clean and polished kitchen appliance. We redid the back yard and put in a huge patio, we debated about doing a permanent fire pit but I’m glad we went with this instead ha a permanent structure.
     
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  2. May 7, 2020 at 11:08 AM
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    With my new garage loft storage done I got cleaned up and organized so I finally got my tool box/work bench space back.



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    It seems like a decent product but it all comes off kind of amateurish. The directions for example say “Tighten the bolt until snug. Do not over tighten bolt”... how about a real torque spec? Also once you remove the old bump stop it says to “Take a scraper and clean any mud/ debris from the frame.” That makes sense, you want a clean dry mating surface... but then the inside seating surface for the head of the bolt is half covered in leftover rubber spatter.


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    The rears won’t work out the box. I have the Toytec bump stop spacers for the extended travel custom length rears the bolts don’t thread into the holes into. It’s a simple fix to just get bolts with the correct thread pitch but I’m going to do some research about running them together. The Durobumps are considerably longer than stock bump stocks but they are meant to compress more. I need to figure out if I should stack them or if I should just remove the Toytec spacers.
     
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  3. May 7, 2020 at 9:26 PM
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    If you have Weathertech floor liners you know they are awful to clean, but I finally found something that works. You can power wash them, scrub them with soap and water, soak them, they always look like shit when they dry. I found something that actually gets them clean without leaving them slick or greasy.

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    They come out looking brand new again
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    Another random tidbit - a California Car Duster works so good for wiping down the interior to get all the dust and fine dirt off the hard surfaces, and it's fast.
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    WOW nice mods! That list goes on forever haha. Thanks for the posts. Where are these roads? They look incredible
     
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  5. May 8, 2020 at 6:12 PM
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    WOW nice mods! That list goes on forever haha. Thanks for the posts. Where are these roads? They look incredible[/QUOTE]

    Thanks, glad you appreciate the thread.
    That was all in Boulder Colorado.
     
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    I did some research regarding the rear bump stops and decided to ditch the Toytec spacers with the OEM bump stops and run just the Durobumps by themselves. The Durobumps are exactly the same size as the OEM + Toytec spacers.

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    The spacers put up a bit of a fight, they didn't want to get cast aside and I had to bust out the drill. It's a stupid design that they use countersink the bolts an angular head and a small to drive them in and out, instead of using a real 6 point bolt sunk down below the mounting surface. 1 bolt needed some persuasion to come out. The good thing about hex bolts is that they are really easy to align a drill bit on them.
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    Durobumps front and rear are on, but I didn't think to grab a pic installed. Super simple mod, I haven't utilized them yet but I don't think I'll be disappointed.
     
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    Hanging out in the backyard last night

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    The sunsets here have been incredible. I took the dog for a walk over the weekend as the sun was sitting, it was a beautiful vibrant red/pink...I called my wife to let her know, but neither she or my son took the effort to get off the couch and look. Sheesh.

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    I really tried to get that awesome one from Saturday I missed It. The sky was putting on a light show so I grabbed my real camera out of the safe to get some pics of it. I go outside in the back, battery is dead. I went back up stairs, grab a few spare batteries, each one was dead. I put one on a charger and let it charge for 5 minutes hoping to at least get a couple, it was enough juice to snap the shutter once and die before processing lol. It just wasn’t meant to be.
     
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    I managed to snag a couple phone pics. About halfway into my walk, i wished I had brought my camera, too! Darn bike lane sign.

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  11. May 14, 2020 at 7:41 PM
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    Gavin and I decided to get out and explore in the 4Runner while social distancing yesterday. We cleaned up some remote off-road trails and dispersed campsites, we saw a pretty young moose, we parked up on a ridge and had popsicles from the fridge/freezer in the truck, we found a middle of nowhere treehouse shelter and signed the guest book, we got the 4Runner leaning very VERY sideways (it’s a good thing there’s a button to disable side curtain airbags while offroad because if it leans too far and it feels like a rollover is imminent it will deploy the side bags to try to cushion your landing), and we got it some new custom Colorado Pinstripes.

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    The butt pucker is real!
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    Those bench cut trails were our route. The far mountain left to right, made our way back and looped around the peak on the right, then came up the trail in the foreground on the left before winding back around to here.
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    I'm pretty disappointed that the brand new Trasharoo has 2 holes worn in it after the first time being mounted. It was on my 4Runner being used for literally 5 hours.

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    Sounds like a great time
     
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  17. May 15, 2020 at 8:25 AM
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    I got a tool roll from Adventure Tool Company and I've been working on gathering stuff for it. I don't want to take stuff from my actual toolbox so everything for the trail tools is new. This is my baseline to start with.

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    I wanted to test out the new Durobumps on the trail the other day so I drove it petty hard at times. It was the first real trail since before snow season so I used this as a shakedown run. We've had a couple of squeaks start recently so I wanted to exercise the suspension and move everything through its full range of motion before digging into diag and doing an in-depth inspection of everything.

    So this was the agenda for the day yesterday:
    -The shocks did not bottom out on themselves on the trail so I wanted to verify the bump stops did.
    -Make sure every nut and bolt is tight.
    -Inspect all the bushings and joints - end link, CVs, ball joints, tie rods, etc
    -Insect aftermarket UCAs for an cracks in the welds of signs of wear and damage.
    -Document all the tool sizes needed for front and rear suspension to ensure everything I may need is in my tool kit.
    -Diagnose and fix the squeaking noise.
    -Grease all the fittings on the truck.
    -Tire rotation.
    -Tire pressures, DON'T FORGET THE SPARE!!!!
    -Fluid level and leak checks.
    -Clean and inspect the shafts on the dampeners.

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    In general, everything is dirty but in fantastic shape.

    In case anyone is interested in the tool list...
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    UCA bushing to the vehicle -19mm (x2)
    JBA ball joint to spindle - 7/8" & 7/16"
    JBA ball joint to control arm - 1/2 (x2)

    Upper shock mount - 14mm
    Lower shock mount - 19mm (x2)
    King adjustable collar - 3/16" hex

    Sway bar links - 6mm hex & 17mm

    LCA bushing - 22mm (x2)
    Ball joint nut - 24mm + cotter pin
    Bal joint cap to spindle - 19mm

    Outer tie rod nut - 19mm + cotter pin
    Outer tie rod holding surface - 21mm
    Jam nut - 22mm
    Toe adjustment - 15mm

    Brake caliper - 17 mm
    ABS wires - 10mm
    ABS and brake line brackets - 12mm
    Brake lines and bleeders - 10mm

    Durobumps - 14mm

    Skid plates - 13mm

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    Lower links - 19mm (x2)
    Track bar - 19mm (x2)

    King upper shock mount - 19mm
    Lower shock mount - 17mm
    BPF rock shield - 14mm

    Brake calipers - 17mm
    Brake caliper bracket - 17mm
    Brake line to caliper - 14mm
    Brake lines and bleeders - 10mm

    Sway bar link - 6mm hex
    Sway bar link shaft - 14mm
    Sway bar link nut - 12mm
     
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    Somebody is pretty happy have the tent back on the truck. He took a nap out there today.

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    What brand and setup do you have for the fridge/freezer?

     
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    The fridge is a Dometic CFX35W. I’m not sure what exactly you’re trying to asking to ask about the “setup” but everything is in this thread. Otherwise if you have some specific questions I’d be happy to try to answer.
     
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    With Utah canceled we decided to make the best of it disappeared up into the mountains for a few days. This was the first real multi-day trip using quite a few pieces of new gear: Jetboil Genesis Basecamp, the fridge for days on end without starting the vehicle to recharge the secondary battery, the Nemo sleeping pads, Eno hammock and tree straps, Adventure Tool Company camp kitchen, and using the Garmin InReach for sat comms. Overall it went really really way and we've been satisfied with our gear choices. I have a running list on my phone that I continuously modify with ideas or things we need to add or change up. This trip we added hot pads, a second collapsable bucket, dish drying towel, kids book for identifying animal scat and tracks, and reevaluating out silverware after snapping a spoon. Plus we learned a valuable lesson in double checking critical equipment. I have iOS apps for offline maps, navigation, trails, etc, but my phone is also set to offload unused apps. After not using most of them through ski season they needed to be downloaded again while I had reception/internet connection. I didn't think to do that so by the time I wanted to use them I couldn't access them. Lesson learned, and that feature is now turned off.

    Anyways, we had a blast - we hiked, explored, made s’mores, played some soccer, collected firewood, practiced some bushcraft skills, and we got to sit watch a bald eagle fish for a while, we brought the camp toilet but I'm happy to say nobody actually used it, in fact I think the highlight of the trip for my son was digging a hole and pooping in it lol.

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    This big deep sloppy uphill pit was awesome, it basically worked as a gatekeeper, you were in the middle of nowhere so you didn't want to get stuck but once we passed that point we don't see another soul. Pictures always make things look less intense they really are, this was deep enough that I smacked the rear bumper off the ground and caused some relatively minor but permanent damage.
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    Looks like a good time, how did you like the new JetBoil? I have a Camp Chef, and don't plan to retire it anytime soon. Also, do you have any solar recharging capabilities? I've been looking at a small Goal Zero kit to start playing around with.
     
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    We are really happy with it so far, it puts out crazy amounts of heat but it has micro adjust knobs, it's like 5-6 turns open to close so you can really dial in the heat to be exactly where you want it, and for a 2 burner, you really can't beat the packability of it.

    The red arc is solar ready, it's just a matter of getting an unregulated solar panel to in. I've done my research and pics what I'm going to get, but 6 months later I just haven't pulled the trigger on it. Generally, we're not sitting in one place for days and days and days and I know I can go at least 48 hours without needing to recharge anything. I haven't tried longer than that without moving the truck yet. My dual battery build I panned for a battery monitor to keep an accurate gauge of power used and how much is left but I haven't been able to find a nice one that is waterproof and suitable for life in the engine bay. After this trip though, just for peace of mind, my wife is on board with pulling the trigger on the solar panel and picking up either the annex room or the awning for the tent.
     
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    I let my 4 year old decide where we were going to explore. I narrowed it down to areas without active fire bans but I let him drop a pin on google maps over the state of Colorado and then we went and spent the better part of this past week exploring the area he chose. It was fantastic! We had an amazing trip, the views, the roads, we didn't see a single person for days, we found some epic campsites that I made sure to mark in my GPS for future use.

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