6th gen Speculation Thread

Why would you want a J70 when you already have a J150? That's like 80 more Js...

Like any of y'all would actually pay $60k or more for a bare bones 1960s truck, lol. All these threads about why 4R doesn't have memory seats, automatic headlights, etc.

 

Of course, whatever works for you, most of us have the member in question blocked so as not to have to listen to their drivel.

"The only thing I want Limited" is the nonsense dished up by a non-US member, telling us what we should demand for the US market. Tell me they don't understand US CAFE, Crash and Safety standards, let alone the wants and demands of the US consumer desire to have all things optioned to the max with butt warmers and ventilated seats, let alone a bunch of automated electronics.

 

I'm all in favor of stripped down, utilitarian options. But, the market for it just isn't here, unfortunately.

I also think that, when it comes to things like power windows and locks versus manual versions, it's probably cheaper and more efficient for them to only offer one option to save space on the production line.

Also, I will admit that I have been spoiled by my "butt warmers", lol!

 

Fair enough, I suppose. I don't like to ignore IDs if I can at all help it and I would rather engage than cancel. If a poster gets on my nerves too much, I will use the ignore feature.

 

But if you don't cancel all opposing opinions, how do you know you're always right?

 

I have never ignored anyone here or on Tacoma world. Even if somebody consistently posts useless things, once in a while they might post something good.

I know I've made an ass of myself more than once on this forum. But, I like to think I contribute positively overall.

I'd hate to think that a bunch of people have me ignored, but I'm sure a few do.

 

If I havent been ignored yet I'm sure it's coming. There is a reason my wife bought me a tshirt recently that says "I'm not for everyone"

 

"ToyotaUSA" has started the tease for the Stout mini truck (the tease is the original, not the new).

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxLLdT0rc-m/
Kirk has a video on it.
https://youtu.be/lZXiMN5vhqU?si=YPMIYSdflnBZyqse

 

Now that's something I'd be interested in if we didn't just buy the Rav4. I was really interested in a Maverick if a) it didn't cost a billion dollars, and b) wasn't a new model year by Ford.

 

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/695800

The hottest car fad in Japan is the new 2024 FJ70. Read it. This author from bestcarweb.jp , the most influential Japanese car magazine, tries to warn potential buyers that the new/old FJ70 can be pretty awkward and uncomfortable to drive, for urban driving and for those with families. But at the end he cannot restrain himself and gushes, “Of course, I am aware of the disadvantages, but I am in love with the FJ70 and I love it so much that I will buy it too.” His arguments against the beloved FJ70 were so unconvincing that he could not even convince himself!

But don’t read what this author says because he is obviously a troll! And whatever you do, don’t believe a word I say either. Get informed. Use your own judgement. Test drive. Get a translator app and read social media in other countries.

Did you see how fast the surrogates here jumped to try and silence my post?

Call me naive but for the life of me I cannot understand why Toyota cannot simply address things in the first person. “I am XYZ from Toyota, and Toyota’s position on this issue is XYZ.” This surreptitious underhanded style of marketing is beneath Toyota. IMO.

 

Ford Bronco sales for 2-door and 4-door models, but not including Sport Model






Ford Bronco Sport sales

 

So the take away is, after people bought the first year hype, they discovered that Ford stands for Found on the Road Dead, not to mention the cheap interior materials, and the downward spiral of year over year sales numbers confirm that.

 

It would be interesting to see what the numbers would be if dealers were not adding massive markups on them. I am sure there are customers that would purchase one but decided against it after they were told they needed to pay an extra 10-30k. I thought about one for a brief moment but said forget it when several dealers I looked at had the crazy markups.

 

I wonder how much of this is because inventory at other OEMs has gotten better. I was listening to animal spirits podcast the other day and the guest mentioned brand loyalty is at an all time low. That could explain lower sales, maybe, if now customers have more choices.
But I agree the lack of quality in these vehicles also could be the reason.

 

I'm always humored by the Ford Blue Bloods, who stay loyal to Ford, even when their Bronco fuel pump is broken miles off the trail. I've never been brand loyal so maybe I don't understand, I buy the model that suits my needs at the time of purchase, regardless of brand (so long as it has a track record of reliability).

 

Well where they at?

 

Yeah, really. Photos should have been leaked about 15 minutes after Toyota revealed the 6th gen.

 

Of course, as normal for any manufacturer, they tell the employees to keep things to themselves. It takes time for the employees to get back to their dealerships and start dripping out information. They don't magically appear, you have to seek them out, try to speak to the general managers at dealerships, they are usually the ones to attend and one other higher up manager/salesperson.

Here is what I've found googleing last night, in this thread at Reddit, a person posted the following:

I then asked them, "did you see it at the Toyota National Dealer Meeting in Las Vegas?" Within an hour he deleted the post, I take that as confirmation he did and he thought he had just been busted for leaking.

This person below posted a video at the meeting and stated there will be "four new models" released in the next 11 months.

Now, everyone, get out there and see what leaks you can turn up!

https://youtube.com/shorts/VajfCyh1sv4?si=hH3Pp136B8frsnl0

 

I have a feeling Hollywood studios and music labels tell their employees to keep the new movie/album under wraps too but that doesn't stop leaks from happening in those industries. Hell, our government can't keep a secret for more than 53 seconds before someone runs to the press with an anonymous scoop.

The info is probably out there, just not found yet.

 

Yeah, I mean look at Jeep. The Rubicon is loaded with comfort and convenience features. That should be the hard core, stripped down off-road model, but, people like comfort as well. Having driven a no-AC CJ around the Mojave for a while, it's kind of a bummer.

 

What's wrong with 2/60 AC?

 

I do appreciate the mix of comfort and decent off-road capability we have with the 4Runner. It's a good compromise since I can't afford a dedicated trail toy.

It would definitely be cool if Toyota could offer something like the 70 series here, but I just don't see it happening.

 

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I am guessing two windows at 60 mph on that one.

 

I think it's probably more that inflation and higher interest rates started making cars less affordable.

 

This is what I do in the 4Runner. I probably won't even notice if the AC craps out.

 

I am old enough to remember the days of 2/55 AC in my VW beetle .

Thank God the days of the national speed limit of 55 is long over.

 

2/60 or 4/60 are all windows down and drive 60mph, helps when you don't have AC, wing windows open are a double bonus. Next your going to tell me you don't know what wing windows are. ;-)