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4runner and Tacoma Differences

Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by Bhux14, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. Nov 7, 2022 at 5:47 PM
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    Bhux14

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    This weekend we traded pickups for a 2022 Tacoma Trail Edition my wife has a 2021 Trail Edition 4runner and there are some interesting differences.

    1) the T4R has has push button start while the Tacoma has just regular key start

    2) the T4R has far better headlights. They are quite a bit brighter and seem to have more throw

    3) the Tacoma has blindspot monitoring while the T4R does not

    4) the Tacoma has a rear locking diff while the T4R does not

    It's interesting to see the differences considering they are both the "trail special edition" and based on the SR5
     
  2. Nov 16, 2022 at 2:19 PM
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    The 2021 4Runner "Trail Edition" is a marketing misnomer. it is not the equivalent of a 10-13 Trail edition or the subsequent TRD OR. It is essentially an SR5 with a few trim items tagged with a "trail" designation. Had there not been a previous trail with all the off-road features, it wouldn't be misleading.
     
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  3. Nov 16, 2022 at 2:27 PM
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    2022 4Runner Trail Special Ed. also has ATRAC. I don't think the Trail Tacos do. Maybe op can confirm?
     
  4. Nov 16, 2022 at 3:36 PM
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    I'm pretty sure all 4x4 Toyotas have ATRAC standard. The Taco Trail edition does not have the crawl control or MTS though. If I had to choose between those two items and the locker, I would take the locker everyday.
     
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  5. Nov 16, 2022 at 3:42 PM
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    Both of them are just dressed up SR5s. I will check to see if it has the atrac or not when I get home. I wish our 4runner came with the locker like the Taco
     
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  6. Nov 16, 2022 at 3:51 PM
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    Adding the locker makes it more of a "trail" vehicle and Toyota missed the mark a little bit by adding it to the Tacoma and not the 4runner under the "Trail Edition" banner
     
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    My boss (wife) drives the taco and I do the 4R and while there are so many similarities, the 4R IMO seems to have the best of both worlds. My only complaint is that the taco has better mpg, then again I have added so much crap to the 4R that no wonder it doesn't do well in that dept.

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    A big difference between all tacomas and all 4runners is the frame. 4runners have fully boxed frames, while tacomas have C frames rear of the cab. Ok, there is also the rear coils on the 4runner vs. leafs on the taco. Oh, and tacos have beds :D
     
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    From reading previous posts here and on another forum, I gathered that MTS is a type of "select your volume" of ATRAC...or the amount of braking to the spinning front wheel. Agree that a rear locker could come in handy too.
     
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    Pretty sure on the taco side you have to at least have the OR package for the rear locker
     
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    2022 and 2023 Trail Tacos have a rear locker. I'm curious if they also have ATRAC.
     
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    I may have been wrong about them having ATRAC, I looked at the standard feature and did not see it listed. I could have sworn ATRAC was standard on all 4x4s.

    Another notable feature is the small lift. IMO the Trail is probably the sweet spot on the Taco. It also has the best looking wheels.

    From the Toyota site, I cropped it at the most interesting features, it also comes standard with the 8" infotainment screen, not sure if that's a unique feature.

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  13. Nov 17, 2022 at 7:59 AM
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    I checked this morning, my tacoma does nit have atrac or the dac that our 4runner has.
     
  14. Nov 28, 2022 at 4:56 AM
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    I'm new here, but I just traded my 9 year old Tacoma TRD-OR for a 23 Runner. After years driving and working on I can give you a lot of detail:

    • (mentioned above) Tacoma is leaf spring rear. Only the front suspension is similar
    • (mentioned above) Tacoma frame is only boxed forward of the A-pillar, rear is C-channel
    • Most Tacomas have 16inch / 75 profile wheels vs 17 / 70 on 4Runner.
    • Tacoma runs 600-700lb lighter (depending on trim) and the weight bias is lot more forward. Add to the first 3 points and (especially with an empty bed) the rear end feels looser and bouncier on road
    • Tacoma has optional 6sp manual in some trims and you can get a smaller 4 cylinder in the lowest trims
    • Gen3 Tacoma has a different 6sp automatic. Gen2 has the same 5sp transmission as 4R (but the shifter is different, no sport shift mode)
    • No Tacomas have a manual transfer case selector. they are all dials.
    • We all know the current Taco has the 3.5v6 rather than the 1GR 4.0... but even the 2nd gen Tacoma 1GR is slightly different than 4Runner 1GR- it was tuned for 40hp less and used different oil (5w30), a top mounted spin on filter (much easier) and had basic copper spark plugs that need changing every 30k.
    • (mentioned above) Not all Tacomas have A-TRAC. On the gen2s only the TRD-OR had it. Looking at the gen 3s I think only TRD-OR and TRD-Pro have it now. Only gen 3s have Crawl and MTS and only on the trims with A-TRAC.
      • I remember test driving them all, it wasn't just an electronic difference, the lower trims had a basic vaccum brake booster vs. the pumped hydraulic booster that's needed for full A-TRAC. SR5/Sport/Limited Tacomas had a weaker version of TRAC in 4Hi, but in 4Lo had no traction aids at all....
    • Only Trail,TRD-OR and TRD-Pro Tacoma have the locker
    • Sadly the backup camera resolution on the Tacoma is better than 4R... even on the old gen2 with the tiny screen.
    • There are other interior differences, especially in the gen2 Tacos where the limited trim was the only way to get a moonroof, softex or heated seats.

    I cant compare the lights or other safety features to a gen3 Taco as I haven't driven one. My gen2 had none of the TSS stuff and all halogen lighting so the '23 4R is a step up in every way for me.




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  15. Nov 28, 2022 at 10:34 AM
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    my tacoma does not have ATRAC. it has LSD - its a 2013 Sport 4x4. not sure about the turd gen

     
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  16. Nov 29, 2022 at 7:43 PM
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    Is yours a real viscous LSD or just the electronic “auto LSD” mode?

    btw, I remembered another difference… 4Runners have 4 wheel disc brakes. Tacomas still have drum rears.
     

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