2022 TRD ORP Missing Basic Tech

This is probably old hat here, but I tried looking thru old threads.

I just bought a 2022 TRD ORP, with an "off road package" (that added the TRD PRO wheels, black vinyl wrap on the emblems, a black exhaust tip, rock rails, and something else)

This vehicle is a "premium" and came with lane control, adaptive cruise control, blinkers and blind spot warninsg in the side view mirrors, and other tech that I don't care about. So I presumed it had some real basic 10 year old tech. However, I found that it DOES NOT HAVE (which seems insane to me given that it's a 2022) is:

Daytime Running Lights
Auto Headlights
Auto Start

There are several more items, but these were the "REALLY!?" items that floored me.

The first 2 are somewhat safety related. The last is convenience (cold mornings/hot days and pre-conditioning the car before entry)

I called the dealer and they said "they don't come with that." Is that for real? My 9 year old suburban has remote start, daytime running lights and auto headlights. This is real basic stuff.

I almost want to return it I'm so disappointed. Thoughts/Feedback?

 

The Pro has all of those things. But overall, this is a vehicle you get when you're willing to sacrifice the latest technology for reliability.

 

Is your left wrist broken?

 

i'm pretty sure you have DRLs.

 

My ORP has DRLs, you just have to turn them on yourself. I agree it is stupid to have auto high beams but not auto headlights.
You'll get used to it.

Only complaint I have is I don't have dual zone climate control. This is the first car I've ever owned without it. Even my '01 Jeep GC had it.

 

My sr5 even has DRL. Some models have the remote start (not my sr5) but that requires a subscription. People then complain that it shuts off once you open the door. The only thing I wish my sr5 had is a second data port for music.

 

Auto start turns off on every Toyota when you open the door.

 

I agree with your statement, but that's also why it's ironic that it has lane control, adaptive cruise and other tech that is the latest tech, and sacrifices DRL which is really more a safety item.

 

Haha, really? Do any other manufacturers do that? That seems like it would be frustrating. I guess you run outside, leave the key in the cupholder, start the car and fire up seats and heat, and then run back inside and hope someone doesn't drive off with it

 

it will be from spinning those lights on and off all the time, haha!

 

Have you turned the DRLs on?

 

Subaru does the same. At least my wife's '14 Outback does.

 

I mean, yes you can manually turn them on, but during the day you have to remember to turn them off. Unless the auto-turn off before the battery dies?

 

The DRLs turn off when the car is turned off.

 

I don’t know if it’s been done on the 22 yet, but previous models have a sensor in the middle of the dash under rear view mirror. Use to be you could just buy the sensor and pop it in and have auto lights

 

you just blew my mind! Can't wait to check it out and take one item off the list. Many Thanks!

 

I just bought a new ORP last week, was baffled when I realized it doesn’t have auto headlights. Hell, I have a bare bones Corolla as a work vehicle and even it has auto headlight. I assumed all newer cars had them.

 

those features could have been easily researched prior to purchase if they were so important for you.

similarly: "my brand new 4runner has bad fuel mileage and this v6 is too weak to haul this 4500lb truck around"

 

yes, that's true, 100%. But really, these are basic items that are on my 2011 Chevy Suburban, 2014 Ram 3500 and a 2007 Lexus GX470. I know what "assume" means, but it also seems like these are obvious inclusions for 2022, especially when they tell you it has adaptive cruise, etc. You almost take them for granted as "old tech that is standard." Certainly I could have researched it, but more the point that it's a 10 year old option and it has new tech, but not old tech.

 

My nissan had a bunch of fancy features but was a piece of crap and couldn't handle driving on the beach. I got what I wanted with a 4runner. I should have bought the fj cruiser back then.

 

On my 2022 ORP I have a light switch with 4 positions: Off, DRL, Marker Lights, and Headlights. (Type A in your manual. There are different switches for different trims.) The DRLs don’t operate when the parking brake is set. They also won’t operate if they have been disabled in the vehicle settings menu of the infotainment system, regardless of whether the light switch is set to the DRL position or not.

So, if your light switch is like mine, for normal daytime use of the DRLs just keep the switch set to DRL. The daytime running lights will come on when you start the engine and disengage the parking brake. They will turn off when you turn off the engine. No excessive wrist twisting required. After driving at night just return the light switch to the DRL position instead of the off position. Quirky? Perhaps. But there it is.

 

Agreed, I didn’t even think to look for auto headlights. My last 5 cars dating back to my 2007 Maximum had it, assumed it was standard. The 2018 Tacoma I traded in had it, so didn’t even look when I test drove it. Not a deal breaker and still love the vehicle, still one of those things that just seems odd.

 

Have you tried the key FOB for auto start- two quick presses and then a hold on the lock. Pretty sure this works for all trims but the car stops when you open the door as a safety feature.

https://www.wheelsjoint.com/how-to-remote-start-toyota-4runner-with-key-fob-or-mobile-device/

 

Yeah. I just leave my switch set to DRL and they’ll turn off automatically when the vehicle turns off. (The stalk switch is actually contoured in a way that implies you’re supposed to leave it in the DRL position.)

Additionally there is a setting in my ‘21 infotainment that will also turn off the regular headlights in a certain time period after I turn the motor off.

Additionally additionally, if you don’t have remote start factory (which I assume you won’t without a Pro or Limited) just get the accessorides plug-and-play module. I got the one with the cellphone app and it’s better than any factory remote start I’ve ever had.

 

You got me all excited! I tried and it doesn’t work.

Regarding options, the 4runner is a legacy vehicle from a legacy import manufacturer. Auto climate control like 1995 Pontiac Bonnevilles used to have??? Nope…”we dont do that here”. Lol

The day I got my 21 Off Road home. I realized it didn’t even have home-link haha

It also doesnt have a place for sunglasses.

The only reason Toyota has TSS is because they are required to have it, as far as I recall. Same as airbags and seatbelts.

Dont want or miss auto climate control. If the system in our 18 highlander is any indication, Toyota has no idea how to properly warm a super cold cabin, without you first enduring 3rd degree burns over any body part near a vent. The temp sensor must be buried in the cargo area, because it tries mightily to get it to set temp with a super aggressive ramp up. It doesnt let up pumping scorching heat until you've already arrived at your destination. I can do that with my manual system by just setting it to high.

i used to have an 11 Kia Optima. The auto climate was seamless and invisible. I never chased it’s tail. Pretty much set it and dont think about it again until maybe the seasons change.

 

And is not electric either. Just keep it.

 

We had a 1998 Lexus ES 300 that had auto head lights......I'm not sure why 20+ years later Toyota is thinking they shouldn't be standard. My husband drives a 2010 Honda Ridgeline and he doesn't have auto headlights either. Can I turn lights on and off? Yes.....but in this day and age we shouldn't have to on $50K vehicles.
-An opinion of one.

 

Yup, Honda, another legacy import manufacturer, who have gotten used to customers interested in pretty much just solid dependable basic cars, emphasis on dependable. That’s all customers wanted, and that became toyotas/hondas gig.

Honestly, that’s why Kia has gotten such a strong foothold in the market lately. They offer tons of options without having to go the super expensive top trim levels (or step up to their luxury brand, like lexus). I bought an 11 Optima that was super impressive for an import. Leather, auto climate, lights, nice alloys, etc and a serious feeling of quality for thosands less than a more basic accord (with steelies mind you).

Like I mentioned before, the Kia’s auto climate was well thought out in terms of programming. But I didnt buy it to enjoy the auto climate. I was an old-school import buyer. Just give me solid quality, and give me the impression it will comfortably last 200k without major expense. Well, by 40,000 miles, the oil on my Kia would turn black as night a few thousand miles after I changed the oil. The oil smelled like gasoline, it consumed a bit of oil, the brakes were ridiculously difficult change out (especially because I needed 4 new calipers at 70k miles, and I got tired of the piss poor damping on the rear suspension. I happily traded it in for the highlander in 2018. And I was happy as a clam that I snagged the last model year before the redesigned model came out lol. I didnt even play with the auto climate for months after getting it, and usually turned off the nav screen while driving haha.

I wonder who the main demographic of 4runner buyers is. I swear it’s people like me who wish Honda would reissue the 98-2002 Accord, exactly like they made it back then. When I found out how far back the current 4runner goes back, I realized that’s exactly what this is! Basically its a vehicle that has been reissued since the 4th gen came out in the early 2000s save for some cosmetic changes.

Ah Toyota, a manufacterer after mine own heart !

 

Yeah, I miss the little metal button floorboard switch to switch low to high beam and back,