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Westcott or Eibach springs

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by hutch993, Feb 25, 2022.

  1. Feb 25, 2022 at 12:29 PM
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    hutch993

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    2022 TRD Pro- which is best, Westcott lift kit or Eibach spring kit?
     
  2. Feb 25, 2022 at 12:33 PM
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    Everyone seems happy with both.

    The Eibach system is less expensive and you're getting coil springs.

    I don't think Eibach springs are available for a 2022 yet but they should be out soon.

    Edit: Looks like they are the same price now.
     
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  3. Feb 25, 2022 at 1:14 PM
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    If you really like the ride of the OEM springs, I suggest the Wescott kit. I have the Wescott kit installed and was on preorder list for the Eibachs. After sometime with the Wescott kit, I cancelled the Eibachs as the ride with the Wescott is practically no different from OEM. I think the Eibach has a slightly higher spring rate and thus slightly increased ride stiffness. And by the specs, the Wescott kit will give you a fraction more height. Neither kit changes overall suspension travel as this is controlled by the bump stop and OEM shock length. Only changing out the shocks to longer ones will suspension travel change.

    And if you want to maintain alignment numbers as close to OEM and optimal as possible (ie caster) you should install UCA’s. Yes, you can get away with the OEM UCA’s.
     
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    Good luck getting a Westcott kit anytime soon. After nearly a month of waiting, I've given up. Apparently they're experiencing a supply chain issue that's preventing the completion of their kits. They, or their distributors, will take your order under the pretense of shipping in 7-10 days. Best of luck with that.
     
  6. Feb 25, 2022 at 4:20 PM
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    There was a thread on this the other week. Try search
     
  7. Feb 25, 2022 at 4:20 PM
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    That sucks. I ordered mine 12/16/21 and kit was shipped 12/30/21. They seem to make these in batches (makes sense with machining setups and powder coating). But they seem to be getting a lot of publicity lately with their kits, especially 2022 Tundra, so I am not surprised with longer leadtimes. But Eibach is not much better. They advertised the 2021+ kit on forums about year ago and it has taken them that long for them to make the new front springs that became available only 1 week ago. They said spring ‘21, then summer ‘21, 4th quarter ‘21, and now only started shipping.
     
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    Given the state of the supply chain I can understand some delay. What I can't deal with is not being upfront regarding the delay.
     
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  9. Jul 13, 2022 at 6:09 AM
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    I'm going to bump this thread to the top. I ordered the Westcott lift for my 22' Pro and received it in 7 weeks. They advertise as 4 to 6 weeks on their site so i was fine with 7 weeks. The quality looks to be outstanding!! I will post pictures tomorrow when i get it back. I also took front and rear measurements before taking it in for the install so I can report exact numbers achieved as well as comment on the ride quality. I know the Eibach Springs are another choice here for a similar lift so anyone who has done one or the other feel free to chime in on likes/dislikes to each option. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I am looking at either Eibach or Westcott. If anyone has a shop recommendation in SoCal (Orange County specifically), I'd love the help!
     
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    eibach
     
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    I purchased through Eibach directly and had them install at their HQ in Corona, CA.
     
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    I have a 2023 TRD Pro and I ordered the Westcott full kit front and rear. I installed the front lower perches and a 1/4 shim instead of the 1/2 inch shim that comes with the kit. I also changed my mind and installed Eibach 1inch red springs that are quoted as being for the Fox shocks. The ride is great, less dive in the front and I can't tell any difference in harshness of the rear springs. That being said I did the mods with about 65 miles on the unit. The rear springs gave me a true 1inch rear lift and the front gave me about 1.3 which I wanted a little rake, about 1inch. I also installed SPC uca's and have no rubbing, with the mud flaps installed and 285/70/17 Toyo AT3's. I have the rear lift 1.25 kit if anyone is interested.
     
  14. Apr 7, 2023 at 10:59 AM
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    Turns out Eibach isn't doing installs right now and no estimate for when they will start back up. Rebel offroad quoted $1500 just for the install and 6 weeks lead time. Anyone else have a shop in SoCal they recommend? Preferably one that has done suspension for you ;)
     
  15. Apr 7, 2023 at 11:07 AM
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    Some I looked into for work, probably missing some other good ones.
    • 88Rotors in El Monte.
    • Miyaki Motorsports also in El Monte.
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    I ended up getting my work done with forum member Superdave. He was available and felt what he charged was very reasonable. Check this thread out-> Superdave's installs, mechanic work. SoCal. | Toyota 4Runner Forum [4Runners.com]
     
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    Thank you! I am definitely checking with Super Dave
     
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    Superdave installed the Eibachs for me today - he is excellent to work with, huge asset to the community.

    For the ride, feels slightly stiffer than stock and less brake dive. After all the hemming and hawing over which lift to get, I am glad I went with springs vs Westcott but to each their own. Now I get to spend the next few months agonizing over which tires I replace the stock Nittos with.
     
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    Looking to do the same, how much lift did you get? Front and rear.
     
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    It hasn't settled all the way yet, but I am already getting more than the 1.4" in front and 1" in the rear - still has a slight rake to it (not as much as before), but really liking the new stance and ride (slightly more firm). I'll update with some pics and measurements after settling and alignment. I haven't taken it off-road yet but I am really stoked on the outcome. If you're on the fence, pull the trigger, you won't regret it.
     
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    Yeah, I am going to do it. I'm ready and this sounds like the way to go. Already looking into tires as well.
     
  21. May 3, 2023 at 5:16 PM
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    Front measures at 36.3" from the ground, 21.5" from center of the wheel. Back is 37.75" from the ground, 22.5" from center of the wheel. I forgot to measure before installing, so if you wouldn't mind sharing your stock measurements, I'd be much obliged. I will eventually get some bigger tires to fill the gap, but for now I really love seeing more of the UCA and the Eibach logo on the new springs!
    IMG_1333.jpg IMG_1336.jpg
     
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    I went with Eibach on my taco. Probably the same if I ever need them on the 4Runner
     
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    Where you go for the alignment?
     
  24. May 15, 2023 at 8:49 AM
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    Took it to my local dealer - happened to be due for 15k tire rotation. Everything is within spec. I’m still running stock Nittos and I’m far from an expert on this but assume when I eventually get bigger tires it may need some adjustments to fit.
     
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    I’m doing the same Eibach spring kit this weekend. Still debating on which tire to go with. Leaning towards KO2’s. Keep me up to date on your choice. Your truck looks great by the way.
     
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    Did the springs and UCAs over the weekend. Need and alignment but damn what a difference! Well worth it.
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    Keep me posted on the tires and what if any mods you need when off-reading (body mount, wheel well, etc) to clear them.
     
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    Did this wind up settling at all in the front? Stock I'm at about 36.8 in the back and right at 35 in the front. I'd like to just run eibachs in the front, and leave the back stock. The front coming up about an inch would be perfect.
     
  29. Aug 31, 2023 at 1:45 PM
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    Same measurements today. The front springs should do the trick for you.
     
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    Thanks!
     

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