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How many times do other drivers flash their high beams at you?

Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by BeavertonCommuter, Sep 4, 2021.

  1. Oct 15, 2021 at 5:52 PM
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    Daddykool

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    So you think having your fog lights on at all times is the best thing to do?
     
  2. Oct 15, 2021 at 6:56 PM
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    At night yes, during the day I don't usually run any lights unless it's raining and such. State law to turn lights on during those times.
     
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  3. Oct 15, 2021 at 7:48 PM
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    I think I will go on a nice, relaxed, night drive.4E85232A-1A25-417D-8216-7D917C17931C.jpg
    Nobody flashes me, and with my night driving goggles, I’m protected.
     
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  4. Oct 15, 2021 at 8:32 PM
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    I'm just thinking, this would definitely help against bright headlights but you are loosing visible light right?

    Please please don't get me wrong. I'm genuinely trying to understand how shaded/ tinted glass help night driving. Couldn't think of anything other than helping someone with sensitive eyes against bright headlights. I was thinking naked eye is the best for night visibility and when there is on coming headlight not to look at it so you won't loose visibility. Again I could be wrong.

    Wonder if we have any ophthalmologists among us who can explain.
     
  5. Oct 15, 2021 at 8:37 PM
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    I saw a Porsche, the whole windshield was tinted yallow…,
     
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  6. Oct 16, 2021 at 3:03 PM
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    None. Bone Stock. EXCEPT: Brushguard, tow hitch, both welded to the frame. It's good to have friends and a fully equipped garage!
    I've heard some people recommend closing one eye when there are oncoming headlights that are too bright. Then, right after they pass, open it up again. Same principle as the pirate's eye-patch. If they had to suddenly go below decks to fight the enemy, they'd lift the eye patch as they dropped down, and have one eye already dark-adapted.

    Heck, get yourself an eye patch at your local pharmacy, and drop it down over one eye if the oncoming lights are too bright, and flip it up as they pass...

    It wouldn't work for me, sadly. I only HAVE one eye. I close that, I can't see anything, but I did that before I lost my eye, and it seemed to work pretty well.

    Just a thought...
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  7. Oct 16, 2021 at 3:34 PM
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    Properly design roads, it shouldn’t bother you. Especially when well lit. I was checking out a new Camry that steers its self by road markings. I says “ what happens if the road doesn’t have markings”. He says “every road in this state has markings”. I says “I know where three are right now”.lol
    Kind of like the DMV says 200 cars go by my house very day.lol
    Maybe 20 do.:)
     
  8. Oct 17, 2021 at 11:20 PM
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    It’s the light pattern. I had better light output in my LED headlights in my Tacoma. Went WAY further down the road. Never got flashed once. I get flashed every morning with this thing. I’m not lifted, and have never touched the headlights.

    I’m sorry, this may be the bitter old man in me, but if you haven’t figured out how to drive a road with bright lights in your eyes, now might be the time. These are the same fools that get pissed off when the sun is in their face lol

    look at the side of the road, bro. Civics blind me every day. I don’t need to flash all 100 billion of them

    /rant
     
  9. Oct 20, 2021 at 9:59 AM
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    I can visibly see the short beam is set higher than on other vehicles, this to include the Ram Rebel (which has a 2 inch lift also) that wife drives and my Jeep. It seems this is coming from factory set like that not just for my 4runner, I think the headlights should be lowered a bit. Long beam goes straight in the trees. I get flashed almost every time when driving nighttime...
     
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  12. Oct 22, 2021 at 9:18 AM
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    One thing I wish all vehicles came with is that dial that was in my 2011 Tundra that allowed the headlight to move up and down a slight amount to allow for trailering and not blinding other vehicles. I dropped the headlights don one notch to stop the flashing from other drivers and it was perfect.
    Also too many drivers drive 100% of the time with their fog lights on, this is not wise and actually decreases your ability to see further out and cause eye fatigue due to the illumination closer to the front of the vehicle.

    Steve
     
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    Fog lights are on only when low beams are on duty. So see further is not in scope (IMO). See further is in scope when high beams are on duty.
     
  14. Oct 22, 2021 at 2:25 PM
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    Agreed. Fog lights in clear conditions are fine if the road is empty because you’re not bothering anyone, but should be turned off (as with high beams) whenever there is approaching traffic. They really only help in inclement conditions. They irritate most everyone else in clear conditions. I think most people who leave them on do so because they think they’re cool.
     
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    I adjusted my L.E.D. headlights in my Corolla. Took five minutes. I must say it IS a more enjoyable drive. I’m projecting out about forty feet then cut off. It’s still plenty of light. And on up/down hills is more controlled.
     
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    So, for shits and giggles, I checked mine today. They are adjusted pretty high. I will say, I liked them higher for driving, especially on the back country roads, BUT I get how other drivers would get pissy. Adjusted them down to the correct height. True test will be Tuesday when I go back to work.

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    I'm in the "fog lights on all the time at night except in snow" category.

    Because

    More light to the front > than less light to the front

    If I had light bars and ditch lights and roof rack lights I'd turn them fuckers on at night, too (and turn them off for oncoming traffic). Why? See above...
     
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  19. Oct 24, 2021 at 2:27 PM
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    If the fog lights are SAE J583 compliant (i.e. they are made by an OEM supplier or if they are a reputable brand that tests their lights for compliance, eBay and Amazon brands don't count), there should be no problem running your fog lights against oncoming traffic. Part of the standard requires that fog lights have a defined horizontal cutoff to avoid glaring. This does not mean it's okay to run Baja Designs squadron sports/pros on the road, as those are NOT fog lights and do not have a road legal fog pattern (they'd also be just as useless as your high beams in actual fog). Fog lights illuminate the road under the fog with that wide, low pattern to avoid reflecting light off of the fog/snow and back into the driver's eyes.

    However, if the weather is bad enough to warrant turning on your fogs, the other critical aspect of their application is slowing down. They definitely are meant to work only as low speed illumination- as others said, they will only illuminate the area 30-40 feet in front of your truck. This speaks exactly to the point you made- if you're going fast enough for a deer strike to damage your vehicle, your fog lights aren't going to be the lights that save you.

    This is also the reason you should avoid using your fogs at highway speed. They oversaturate the ground too close to your truck, making your pupils constrict and focus on this near-field lighting (instead of out to the end of your headlight beams where your eyes belong). It's like riding a bicycle and looking at the front tire the whole time.
     
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    This is really it folks, it's that simple.

    Aim your headlights properly, don't guess. Don't use silly LED or HID bulbs in your halogen housings. If you insist on LED or HID, retrofit the proper optics into the housings or buy OEM LED headlights for the 21+ trucks.
     
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    mine are OEM. See above aiming. That was how I bought it
     
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    It's hard to tell how your headlights are aimed from photographs. Factory or not, it's easy to check and adjust your headlight aim.

    Find a wall next to level ground. Load your truck as if you were going on a trip (or add weight to simulate). Get a measuring tape and check the height from the ground to the center of your headlight projector. Let's say it's 40 inches. Headlights below 36" can aim level but above 36" must aim 2 inches lower at 25 feet.

    Since your headlights are 40 inches from the ground, place a piece of tape on the wall that's 38 inches up (parallel with the ground). Using a measuring tape, park your truck 25 feet away from the wall. Now adjust your low beam cutoff so that it's right at the 38 inch mark.

    You can also aim your fogs using the same steps, except those will have a 4 inch drop from their height (regardless of the height).
     
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    Mine were at 38 and I was getting flashed every day. I dropped it to 33 per the links in this thread. I haven’t driven it since.

    I’m not trying to argue on this. I’m just telling you my experience. The blue tape is 33 inches on flat surface at 25 feet

    38 inches would have raised my lights by 1/2 inch or so
     
  24. Oct 24, 2021 at 5:34 PM
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    What did you measure your headlight height at?
     
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    Just under 38 inches. Look at the pics above. Blue tape is 33 inches.
     
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    Drivers is probably right at 33”, passenger around 35
     
  27. Oct 24, 2021 at 5:43 PM
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    Your truck is tilting 2 inches from side to side?
     
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    i thought it was supposed to be off level for oncoming traffic????? It came like that from the factory. I left it the same. Just dropped the lighting evenly :notsure::notsure::notsure:

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    Sorry, when I ask you what your headlight height is at: I mean your physical headlight height. The chunk of plastic and glass attached to your truck, not the light on the wall. That's what determines your final 2 inch adjustment.
     
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    wait…headlights are plastic?? I get what you are trying to say. You are coming off as a jack ass. I get that you know more than everyone else on this forum, but let’s pretend that some people may or may not know more than you do. You came off as tryin to help in the beginning…..now it’s just a know it all.
     

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