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PCS Malfunction Alert

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Pie Wagon, Feb 24, 2021.

  1. Feb 24, 2021 at 12:53 PM
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    Pie Wagon

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    PCS on driver dash window indicates PCS is working and I can adjust the sensitivity. However, I have an alert that says "PCS malfunction, do not rely on this system" same for Vehicle stability--message is dated Oct 2020 and I bought in 2021 with 4 miles on it.

    My rig is clean and I have tested on the road and no PCS seems to work. Cruise control works. Everything I read is related to lifts and I am a completely stock SR5P.

    Any pearls of wisdom out there before I go back to dealer?

    Cheers!

    Richard
     
  2. Feb 24, 2021 at 2:46 PM
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    jmkulbeth

    jmkulbeth Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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    I had messages like that in the alerts when I bought mine. I cleared them and it's never been a problem. I think those are residual messages from a factory test. There been a few threads on this before.

    Clear them and go on about your day. If there's a problem, they'll pop up again. But I'll wager all is good.
     
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  3. Feb 25, 2021 at 3:26 AM
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    Thanks JMK... I was able to remove message. Took for a drive and still don't think the PCS works as I tried to "safely" approach both moving and parked cars with all 3 sensitivity distances with no PCS alerts. Attached is the warning pic. I hate going to dealer for the time cost, but will take in since it is under warranty. Salesman where I bought (40 miles away) said it could be a pre-delivery inspection (PDI) issue so best to have a dealer (local 4 mile away dealer) check it out. Will do next week and report back. Cheers!

    PCS Warning.jpg
     
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  4. Feb 25, 2021 at 7:01 AM
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    The PCS system is pretty smart, it knows your tricks and is not fooled! :)

    Check out page 258 or so in the owners manual. It talks about the PCS system and gives examples of when the system my activate even if there is no/limited threat of collision, such as a car stopped in front of you to make a turn. If you are really set on testing it, you may be able to replicate one of those scenarios in a safe manner.

    FWIW my '20 had the same message dated prior to my purchase. As other's said, it's normal.
     
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  5. Feb 25, 2021 at 7:09 AM
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    I am thankful that Toyota's PCS programming seems to be pretty smart. Honda's system is a total spaz, always thinking you're about to die and warning you as such.
     
  6. Feb 25, 2021 at 7:37 AM
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    jmkulbeth Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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    It's pretty picky about what will set it off. I've got about 5000 miles on mine and it's happened once when a car in front was moving to the shoulder to make a right. The car was out of my lane and barely over the white while turning, and I didn't see a need to slow down. The 4Runner disagreed and warned me. Now I do the safer thing and give a wider berth to those cars or I slow down a bit.

    The cruise control uses the radar on the front, which is part of the PCS system. Hop on the highway and set your cruise. When you approach a vehicle moving slower the dash display will indicate you're closing in, and then it'll adjust the speed to maintain distance. I doubt that tests every aspect of the system, but it's an easy check.
     
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  7. Feb 25, 2021 at 7:43 AM
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    Good recall, P258 exactly... Copy on car being smarter than I am. Will trust the technology, but rely on my driving skills. I'll pretend I have the old school FJ60 technology and appreciate the 5Gen comforts. I am digging my new rig and can't believe I have it. Appreciate everyone's feedback.
     
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  8. Feb 27, 2021 at 6:07 AM
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    Take to dealer for this 100% no brainer. Same as Alightment logic.
     
  9. Mar 5, 2021 at 6:20 AM
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    Follow up: Did the no brainer and took back to dealer this AM. As was stated in the thread, not an issue and confirmed by dealer inspection. Maybe a pre-delivery inspection issue, but they found nothing wrong. Aloha Friday!
     
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    Yeah I had that same thing on mine and realized the date stamp was on it before I even bought the car. So I assumed it was the tests that were ran before delivery. I have had it go off a few different times for those unexpected stop in the middle of the road to make a left turn. Idk why so many people here in Arizona think that is okay. Anyways good to know your 4Runner is okay.
     
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