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5100s @1.85” and stock rear rise height

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Inverted, Mar 17, 2019.

  1. Mar 17, 2019 at 6:50 AM
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    I have 5100s all around. The front has been at .85” and rear at stock ride height (no spacers)

    I am thinking about increasing the front to 1.75”. Will I be ok leaving the rear alone ? This is my dedicated dog transport vehicle + occasional off road toy. I don’t haul loads or my family with it. I’m more concerned with off road ability being affected, then I am asthetics

    Thanks
     
  2. Mar 17, 2019 at 6:58 AM
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    Yes, this is fine. Your truck will look completely level like this (wheel wells will be the same height). If you add any weight to the back, you will be nose high.

    The way your shock travels will be affected. You will have less down travel, but more up travel. It might feel a little stiffer then having them set a .85", but nothing unbearable. You can always try it and go back if you don't like it.

    My truck is set at 1.6" in front (Eibach shocks) and stock in the rear. I like it like this.
     
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    Ok thanks. Would it hurt to use a 1.5” spacer in the rear? I know most only go 1”
     
  4. Mar 17, 2019 at 8:04 AM
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    That’s a level lift. But I’ll add 1.5” spacer at rear and .5” extra at front because I have 285/70R17 KO2. They look wonderful. 7C3F740C-F4EA-48F1-9C3B-2CA0A3E97B98.jpg
     
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    OK let me get this straight. Currently in the photo above, you have 5100s set at 1.75 in the front with 285/70R17 KO2? Correct? (Your T4R looks great by the way)

    And to this you want to add .5" spacer to the front and 1.5" to the rear?

    Do the tires rub in the current set up?

    Thanks
     
  6. Mar 17, 2019 at 8:21 AM
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    I'm thinking about doing a similar lift (5100s all around) but then adding airbags to the rear so that I can re-level it when I load it up (not very often).
     
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    Thanks all. My primary concern is off road capability.
     
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    If your primary concern is offroad capability, then I would get some 1.5" or 1.75" Dobinson's lift coils in the front and whatever height springs you want in the back. You can still use your 5100's, but you'll be able to set them to 0 in the front because your coil will be providing the lift and not the raised spring perch on the strut. That will allow your shocks to have an equal amount of up and down travel, as the 4Runner was intended to have.
     
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  9. Mar 17, 2019 at 11:01 AM
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    I have Fox 2.0 C/O set up and 285 KO2. I have level kit now but I have no rubbing. I just want to lift my rig a 1” more in front and 1.5” rear for the stance and look.
     
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    I have fox 2.0. The other guy wanted or has the 5100.
     
  11. Mar 17, 2019 at 8:38 PM
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    Thank you Navy.
     
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  12. Mar 17, 2019 at 8:51 PM
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    I had a minor rubbing but I pushed the fender liner and had no rubbing since at all.
     
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    Do this, It will ride nicer and is just a better over all set up
     
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    And it's not very expensive either. You can get a pair of front coils for $200 and same for the rear. Do the front first and see how you like it, measure, then see how much lift you want in the rear coils.

    This is a better setup for both on and offroad when compared to pre-loading your front coils and putting spacers on your rear coils.
     
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    For the 3”F and 2”R that would look level too right?
     
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    That would be a good stance for many, but you will still have some factory rake with 3"F and 2"R.

    To get it level, subtract 1.5" to 1.75" from whatever you do to the front.

    So if you're 3" in the front, then you would want roughly a 1.5" lift in the back for it to be level.
     
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    So 3” and 2” has the rear higher by 1” correct?
     
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    With 3"F and 2" R you will be anywhere from 0.5" to 0.75" higher in the rear.
     
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    this is billys @1.75 with stock springs and a cornfed 3/4 spacer in the back. I was just a smidge to high in front without the rear spacer and I had drivers side lean.

    Nothing to stiff about it, but I am moving to after market springs (setting the clip at 0) to accommodate some weight and improve handling further.
     
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    TRD wheels, Firestone destination at 2’s, Bilstein 5100's .85
    I would not do 1.75 without a 1” rear spacer. Your fenders May look level but your frame will have reverse rake. Stay .85 or add a rear spacer if you go 1.75. You want a little front rake for when you add crap to the rear.

    Don’t forget to adjust your headlights also.
     
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    I agree. I was the same without a spacer at rear and I didn’t like it. That’s why I’m cranking another .75” front and 1.5” rear.
     
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    I’m revisiting this thread- I have a similar thread going about the topic. Im doing the icon stage 1 on my 4R ORP, but will be sticking with stock wheels and tires just to get some more use out of them And to buy me some time from a monetary standpoint. That being said, Icon says the lift out of the box is about 2.75” in the front and they have the 2” rear lift spring for the back. I decided to not do the 2” rear spring And sticking with OEM and am having the installer take the lift down in the front by whatever it takes to get the vehicle level front to rear. I’ve heard numbers ranging from 1” to 1.75” in the front will level you out in with the back. Eventually I will upgrade to bigger tires, maybe 285s, and at that point I plan to add 1.5” rear lift springs in place of the OEM and bring the front up by however much it takes to make me level again. With the intention of gaining clearance in the wheel wells to clear the bigger tires. I hardly ever load anything up in the back or tow anything so I’m not too concerned about being nose high when loaded. That’s one nice thing about the icons (and other manufacturers with similar products) is that they’re adjustable in the front up to 3” of lift. This leaves a lot of room to grow and upgrade over time. At least that’s my hope. Once it’s installed and I see it all in person maybe my mind will change and I’ll want the 2” rear lift springs. /shrug
     
  23. Jan 26, 2021 at 10:41 AM
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    So is there a question?

    lol just busting your balls man. I think you have it figured out.

    The 4Runner TRD Pro comes with the front lifted about an inch higher than the regular 4Runner. To many, that is considered "level" because it's pretty dang level.. while leaving just a little more height in the rear for when passengers are loaded up, or some gear is stored in the hatch. That amount of "levelness" also leaves just a liiiiiitle bit of forward rake to help with MPGs. Then there are the guys that want it *exactly* level, unloaded, so they lift the front 1.75 to 2 inches more than they lift the rear. That would definitely result in nose-high while loaded up. To each his own.

    Since you are messing with threaded adjustable coil-overs, I wouldn't pay attention to numbers. You'll need to install the coils, THEN adjust them from there, in order to get your desired stance, anyway. Threaded coil-overs aren't like the Bilsteins in that they do not have pre-set adjustments which are supposed to give a certain lift height. While it might seem easier to set the Bilsteins first, then install, the disadvantage there is obviously that they cannot be finely-tuned like your ICONs. BTW, also plan on setting the drivers side about 3mm higher than the passenger side, up front, if you want it done correctly. This is to offset non-symmetrical vehicle weight. The 4Runner comes from the factory with different height springs up front in order to create this offset.

    I definitely think that 4Runners with a 2" lift on the rear and stock tires looks silly AF. Maybe that's just me. I think you're making the right choice by not lifting the rear. The TRD Pro looks great as it is.. about as good as it gets with stock tire size IMO.. and that's a 1" front lift, 0" rear lift, over your TRD ORP. If it was me, that's how I'd set your ICONs.. then just lift the front more, install rear springs, and re-align whenever you get bigger tires.
     

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