1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Is this filter dirty?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Dave97, Jun 2, 2024.

  1. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:28 AM
    #1
    Dave97

    Dave97 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2023
    Member:
    #32874
    Messages:
    68
    Gender:
    Male
    Is it time to replace this filter? Dealer said it is wanted $46

    1.jpg
    2.jpg
     
  2. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:29 AM
    #2
    Ripper238

    Ripper238 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2023
    Member:
    #30792
    Messages:
    1,242
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD OR
    Doesn't look too dirty, but it's well worn. I would replace it.
     
  3. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:30 AM
    #3
    BS67

    BS67 8404 USMC Doc

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2024
    Member:
    #38143
    Messages:
    9,635
    Gender:
    Male
    CC Ne
    Vehicle:
    2023 SR5 Premium
    I recently got an OEM off Ebay for $26 and free s/h.
     
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
    #3
    Toy4X4 and Ironguy like this.
  4. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:33 AM
    #4
    backpacker

    backpacker New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2023
    Member:
    #32515
    Messages:
    2,176
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    RSG sliders, Falken Wildpeak 265/70R/17 E
    How many miles? What kind of driving conditions?
     
  5. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:43 AM
    #5
    rickystl

    rickystl New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2020
    Member:
    #17250
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rick
    St. Louis, MO
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD/Off-Road Premium
    Doesn't look too bad yet. But see Post #4 above. How many miles ? What you want to also check is the cabin filter. It seems they collect dirt faster than the engine filter. LOL
     
    Ripper238 likes this.
  6. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:45 AM
    #6
    Dave97

    Dave97 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2023
    Member:
    #32874
    Messages:
    68
    Gender:
    Male
    10,401 miles and it's a year old. Just pavement driving.
     
  7. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:46 AM
    #7
    Dave97

    Dave97 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2023
    Member:
    #32874
    Messages:
    68
    Gender:
    Male
    parts.toyota sells them for $20
     
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
    #7
    TrailSpecial22 and BS67[QUOTED] like this.
  8. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:47 AM
    #8
    BS67

    BS67 8404 USMC Doc

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2024
    Member:
    #38143
    Messages:
    9,635
    Gender:
    Male
    CC Ne
    Vehicle:
    2023 SR5 Premium
    That's a good price!
     
  9. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:48 AM
    #9
    Dave97

    Dave97 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2023
    Member:
    #32874
    Messages:
    68
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes the catch is shipping but most of the time orders over $100 ship free.
     
    BS67[QUOTED] likes this.
  10. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:50 AM
    #10
    jeepster09

    jeepster09 "Old"-Member....

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2024
    Member:
    #39337
    Messages:
    368
    Gender:
    Male
    Twin Cities MN
    Vehicle:
    4Runner 2008 Sport
    A work in progress.....
    A way to check air filters is to use a light up against it and see if you can see light on other side. On yours it looks like it has a PRE-FILTER on it that you may have to lift off of it if you can. If you see light it is okay.
     
  11. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:52 AM
    #11
    backpacker

    backpacker New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2023
    Member:
    #32515
    Messages:
    2,176
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    RSG sliders, Falken Wildpeak 265/70R/17 E
    Then it's a bit early according to the schedule. I wouldn't change it yet. Mine didn't look bad at 15k/ 1 year, but I had a lot of desert miles in fine sand, so I changed it.
     
    icebear likes this.
  12. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:53 AM
    #12
    Dave97

    Dave97 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2023
    Member:
    #32874
    Messages:
    68
    Gender:
    Male
    It's a OEM Toyota filter, i've never had one with that filter thing on top....seems like it wouldn't let much air pass.

    price.jpg
     
  13. Jun 2, 2024 at 11:57 AM
    #13
    backpacker

    backpacker New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2023
    Member:
    #32515
    Messages:
    2,176
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 TRD ORP
    RSG sliders, Falken Wildpeak 265/70R/17 E
    Yeah, the current Toyota parts don't have the prefilter. I tried to save my prefilter, but it was attached at too many places.
     
  14. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:03 PM
    #14
    RumHamRunner73

    RumHamRunner73 Dead on with a zero

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2022
    Member:
    #29771
    Messages:
    3,431
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Philip
    Stanly County, N.C
    Vehicle:
    2022 4 Runner Limited. Blizzard Pearl
    No. doesn't look dirty by the pics.
     
  15. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:09 PM
    #15
    rickystl

    rickystl New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2020
    Member:
    #17250
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rick
    St. Louis, MO
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD/Off-Road Premium
    Looks like the OP's filter is good for another year, IMO. That white pre-filter on top of the filter was on my 21' 4R, And I seem to recall it was on the original filter on my 10' FJ Cruiser. (?) Maybe just the original filters that come with a new vehicle from the Factory have this added ?
     
  16. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:13 PM
    #16
    Dave97

    Dave97 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2023
    Member:
    #32874
    Messages:
    68
    Gender:
    Male
    I have replaced the original filter with the one above they both had that pre-filter. Part # 17801-38051

    I always thought it was strange.
     
    java and rickystl[QUOTED] like this.
  17. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:32 PM
    #17
    Ripper238

    Ripper238 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2023
    Member:
    #30792
    Messages:
    1,242
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD OR
    You can get away with it. But buy a new one so you have it, but if you compare you will replace it. lol
     
  18. Jun 2, 2024 at 12:37 PM
    #18
    Dave97

    Dave97 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2023
    Member:
    #32874
    Messages:
    68
    Gender:
    Male
    I have one on hand actually, it's hard to tell how dirty it is with that pre-filter it seems to be glued on, i have been buying all my filters etc from toyota directly on there website it's cheaper than the local dealer for some reason. :)
     
    Ripper238[QUOTED] likes this.
  19. Jun 2, 2024 at 1:50 PM
    #19
    whippersnapper02

    whippersnapper02 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2019
    Member:
    #8982
    Messages:
    3,577
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Christian
    Vehicle:
    2019 4Runner TRD Offroad Premium
    Looks good to go.
     
    Agent_Outside likes this.
  20. Jun 2, 2024 at 1:56 PM
    #20
    morfdq

    morfdq New Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2022
    Member:
    #27196
    Messages:
    1,372
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Derek
    Vehicle:
    2022 SR5 Premium
    TRD Wheels, exhaust, Eibach, Cali Raised Skid Plate, Diode Dynamics fog, Sherpa Crestone rack.
    I’d replace it. That’s one of those cheap maintenance items. 20ish bucks. Piece of mind for me.
     
    Ironguy, JChiz and Ripper238 like this.
  21. Jun 2, 2024 at 4:20 PM
    #21
    jharkin

    jharkin New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2022
    Member:
    #29803
    Messages:
    660
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jeremy
    Boston suburbs
    Vehicle:
    2023 Black Pro
    I just took mine out this weekend to look at it at 15k and it looks about like that. Back in it went.

    if you look in the book standard schedule is 30k I believe and severe service just says inspect at 15 and only replace if necessary.
     
    Schlappesepple and mrmike7189 like this.
  22. Jun 2, 2024 at 4:44 PM
    #22
    Slopemaster

    Slopemaster Slope Survivalist

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2021
    Member:
    #20442
    Messages:
    3,339
    Gender:
    Male
    Idaho
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5
    265-70-17 Ridge Grapplers, TRD Pro rims, 3M precut bra, N-Fab nerf/steps
    It’s fine,
     
    Agent_Outside likes this.
  23. Jun 2, 2025 at 5:26 AM
    #23
    Curlystooge

    Curlystooge Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2022
    Member:
    #25595
    Messages:
    244
    Gender:
    Male
    Flyover
    Vehicle:
    2022 limited in magnetic grey
    Hold it up to a bright light, or the sun and look through it. You may be surprised how clogged they get with fine particles. I just replaced mine that looked like that and compared to the new one, a big difference. Had approximately 20K on it.
     
  24. Jun 2, 2025 at 6:36 AM
    #24
    Nick B

    Nick B New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2024
    Member:
    #40493
    Messages:
    492
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    SW Florida
    Vehicle:
    2010 TE, 2024 ORP
    Local dealer told me the ones with the white pre filter are no more .
     
  25. Jun 2, 2025 at 7:36 AM
    #25
    Hungryhawk

    Hungryhawk New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2017
    Member:
    #4480
    Messages:
    522
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Southern CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 SR5
    My dealer provided me a prefilter one recently. I actually saved it in garage because it was not needed yet. After the LA firestorms the LA basin was covered in soot and ash for weeks. My cabin air filter was a mess. The engine air intake behind the wheel well seemed to protect my truck form sucking up the ash.
    I will take a picture later today of the box Toyota part number.
    I remember something about 2 versions of engine air filters.
     
  26. Jun 2, 2025 at 7:37 AM
    #26
    LuLu

    LuLu New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2022
    Member:
    #26229
    Messages:
    725
    Gender:
    Male
    Utopia
    Vehicle:
    2022 TRD Sport
    OEM Crossbars OEM Hood Deflectors OEM Running Boards Tints
    There are very good aftermarket brands from RockAuto.
    Just look at the ratings before buying.
     
  27. Jun 2, 2025 at 7:40 AM
    #27
    Curlystooge

    Curlystooge Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2022
    Member:
    #25595
    Messages:
    244
    Gender:
    Male
    Flyover
    Vehicle:
    2022 limited in magnetic grey
    something fishy going on, I just bought one three days ago IMG_0206.jpg
    from a dealer and the parts guy acted like he was doing me an under the table favor. Genuine Denso replacement filter.
     
  28. Jun 2, 2025 at 7:40 AM
    #28
    rickystl

    rickystl New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2020
    Member:
    #17250
    Messages:
    834
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rick
    St. Louis, MO
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD/Off-Road Premium
    I swear, the cabin filters get dirty at twice the rate of the engine air filters.
     
    4Runner75, Curlystooge and Ripper238 like this.
  29. Jun 2, 2025 at 7:49 AM
    #29
    Ripper238

    Ripper238 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2023
    Member:
    #30792
    Messages:
    1,242
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD OR
    Same. Its ridiculous how dirty and the amount of garbage makes it to them, let alone how they loose there structure.

    I swapped my engine filter for a "lifetime" AEM which has been great for years now with just brushing it off. Don't think i could get away with a lifetime in cabin filter (If there even was one).
     
  30. Jun 2, 2025 at 8:32 AM
    #30
    Hungryhawk

    Hungryhawk New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2017
    Member:
    #4480
    Messages:
    522
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Southern CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 SR5
    I guess filters catch fine particles that can wear engine parts by abrasive damage. A lot depends upon your environment where you drive.
    Desert with sand & dust will clog faster than woods and grasslands.
    I would be cautious with a filter that does not catch small particles.
     
    Saker and Ripper238[QUOTED] like this.

Products Discussed in

To Top