When the new 4R finally arrives there might not be any room on dealer lots for them

I read once that more energy is expended in the production of a vehicle than it will consume in its useful life. ICE vehicles included.

 

That seems plausible considering how many parts there are in a vehicle and the manufacturing processes and raw materials needed for each of them.

 

Yes.
That’s one of several reasons I have kept my 22-year-old Nissan on the road.

 

Ant that’s part of how we get $800-3500 taillight assemblies.
(Looking at you, Ford.)

 

new tech is poop. Heck I’d take a car with manual roll up windows if they still made it an option

 

you will see big dips during generational change years. people hold out for the next gen to release to decide to buy old or new gen

2009 5th gen
2025 6th gen

2013/2014 was the major refresh on the 5th gen. the refresh is what pushed me to get my 2014 4runner limited.

 

Haha. While I agree wholeheartedly with your premise, I disagree with your example. The daily driver I had for 12 years previous to my 4Runner had manual roll up windows. Leaning over from the driver’s seat to roll up the passenger window was tiresome.

 

Good if you love working for peanuts. A kid in his T shirt without a degree will be making more than you developing apps and websites, infact freelancing without a boss. Times have changed

 

Jeez... Took the holiday weekend off but for one 2nd gen post and there is a lot to unpack here.
Yeah, I think I'll just pass and stick with the popcorn.

 

Not everything is about money.

 

Cool story bro.

 

It's been known for centuries that professorship especially in humanities subjects is a pyramid scheme. for every 100 PHD students passing their committees, there are only single digits of tenure track positions out there, the hiring is highly political, and the rest are on their own to either work as poorly paid lecturers or associate faculty, post docs, or find their own way to make a living.

That's the real world, you need money or a marketable skill to survive.

 

Old college saying

"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

I think it holds true a lot of the time.

 

Some people just enjoy teaching. Like I said it’s not all about the money. Plus the majority of people live in two income households these days.

 

Great. Do it. Leaving my tax money out of it is all I ask.

 

Yes it is. You need money for life. Kids should be taught how to make money in freaking primary school.

 

Wow. What a life.

 

If you enjoy teaching, then become an engineer in the industry then teach that. Teachers are all talk no action, that's why they are paid peanuts.

 

It’s obvious you care more about money than happiness. Not everyone feels the same way. Let’s just leave it at that.

 

You are never free if you are not financially stable, that's the truth of life. I am not saying chase billions, but make enough to be free. The little shop owner(Him and his 20 year old son) that regeared my 4R is more free than that passionate teacher who is working for 60k. Sorry, that passion is worthless.

 

Life is what you make of it, having money makes things easier. We taught our kids to be responsible adults. Our son is in sales and makes in the mid six figures, our daughter will graduate in May with majors in Bio Chem and Math with a minor in Spanish. She will graduate with zero debt. I like to think all of the time we spent with them made them good kids. A wise man once told me, you will never look back and think "I spent too much time with my kids". Enjoy life, be nice to people, it goes by in the blink of an eye.

 

Cool story bro.

 

You are a good parent. America needs more parents like you. Sales and Biochemistry, way to go. Send the smart young lady to the Bay Area once she is done with her degree.

 

Feel free to go down to your local university and ask the English and Literature PH.D. students if they are so happy they don't care about money anymore.

 

She wants to stay away from liberal states, living in the Peoples Republic of Illinois has taught her a lot. Plus, she wants to live somewhere warm where the people are nice.

 

You also have to consider that a quality LED bulbs will last much longer than an incandescent bulb, and they only use about 10% of the energy.

 

I can consider it, but the evidence based on my own use doesn't support it to the degree people would like for us to believe.

Plus, they're not for crap in the garage door openers, nor in that tiny receptacle above the water dispenser on the fridge.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not totally against them. Heck, I love them in the small machines we've built. I love some of the LED taillight setups out there (and some of them kinda suck), despite their serious added cost.

I'll admit they're great for some applications, but not all. Having LEDs essentially forced on us in large scale [for home use, in particular] just simply irks the crap out of me.

 

Sorry that your garage door opener and fridge came with shitty bulbs. That doesn't change the fact that they're more efficient and last longer than incandescent.

My living room, which is admittedly not big, is more than bright enough with 7 lights that draw 9 watts apiece (63 watts total). I generally keep them dimmed to about 50% unless I'm cleaning in there. And, I'm a person who likes bright lighting.

Every light in every commercial building we install is now LED. Metal halide, high pressure sodium, and fluorescent are all obsolete. Just like residential applications, the early LED's were not as good as what we have now.

If you're basing your opinion on the early LED's that came around 20 years ago, I'd recommend giving them another try. They've gotten much better.

I'll add that I'm not in favor of the government trying to force people into a specific type of product. But, that's irrelevant now, as there's literally 0 advantage to incandescent lighting in almost any scenario.

 

While I don't agree entirely with your point of view, I appreciate your sharing it.

Honestly, it's probably something I'd enjoy having a beer with you and discussing further. :^)

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So, before we get growled at for getting so far off-topic... my local dealer still has 60 Tacomas on the lot. plus 3 Land Cruisers and 13 more marked as incoming.

 

Dealerships are good at playing Tetris with cars so even if room is tight they will fit the new 4Rs in there.