Any help would be much appreciated.. 2021 4Runner Off Road Prem

I am new to this site and would love some advice and opinions on a 2021 4Runner Off Road Premium. I am in the market for one. Could anyone tell me if you think this is a deal to pursue.

Mileage: 44k
Certified from dealer
1 owner and great maintenance history
Eibach stage 1 lift


Out the door price is 42K.. That a good deal?

Looking forward to be part of this community as soon as I get my hands on a good deal.

 

$42k for a used 21 ORP CPO with 44K.... Not a terrible deal. But... FYI - You are within striking distance of a new one. Surely, you've weighed that? Downgrade to the TRD Off-Road and - to my thinking - going with new is clearly a better scenario (in multiple ways).

 

I'm not sure where in the USA you are, but in my neck of the woods, you can get a 2021 w/8k miles for $42k; and it's an ORP trim level. There are others in the area with mileage similar to the one you're looking at, and they're all selling in the $40k range.

The $42k from that dealer doesn't seem tooooo out of line, but you do have wiggle room to negotiate. The used car market is a buyers market right now, not a sellers market. Offer the dealership $39k and see if they come down and meet you in the middle.

 

Thank you so much for your input. I've thought about new but my lady really wants a moon roof and leather interior. Looked at new ones a month ago and after all the fees they put on there, they are over our budget. Do you say go new due to the obvious reason of lower miles and warranty? Or are you saying that due to the 2021 model? Again this had one owner and good maintenance history.

Side note.. This seems to have a small lift on it.. Is that something I want to stay away from? Anything I should look for while looking at the truck? Like the panhard rod?? Any other issues when you lift a 4runner?

Thanks again for responding.

 

Thank you Loco.. Just curious what part of the USA you are in for those prices?

I was thinking of offering 37-38k but I also don't know if that is just dumb of me to think I can get it that cheap.

I agree with you though and think I will shoot for at least under 40K out the door.

 

Personally, I'd be very wary about buying a lifted used vehicle. There are too many butchers out there. You don't know if it was done correctly by professionals, if they used quality parts and you don't know how HARD it was or was not off roaded.

Even if it was installed right with quality parts, the previous owner could have off roaded really hard (and often) in it. Inspect it carefully. Look at the UCA/LCA's, Shocks/Struts, etc.. Check the frame (if you live in a rust-belt area),

You could get a gem or you could get a turd. I'd shell out a few bucks more for a new one. Not because it's brand new with a longer warranty, but for piece of mind that some OTHER guy didn't fuck it up royally before you got your hands on it.

 

Well Said Loco!! Truly appreciate your input. Will look more into the new ones again.

 

Can I ask you one more question Loco....?

I'm not huge into off roading. So as far as all the extra off road features like crawl control.. Do I even need a off road model? I live in Oregon so we get snow and mud during the winter but nothing crazy. I also would like to do a little more off roading when I get a 4Runner but will never do major off roading. Would the Sr5 Premium do just fine in Portland?

 

Totally this. Don’t make the mistake of buying for the “legendary Toyota reliability” on used vehicles. Once somebody has had their mitts in there, it’s their work and the parts used that will determine if it stays factory reliable. Not to mention, suspension lift means that they might have done some off roading. Buying used and expecting factory reliability don’t mix unless you get lucky, or it checks out after personally inspecting everything.


Don’t get me wrong, it’s a durable platform for off roading. I love taking mine all over the place. But I know how I drive off-road, and I’m careful because I pay the consequences for any damages or wear. But it’s impossible to know how other people drive off road. It’s easy to damage all sorts of things with enough ignorance. The consequences might not show up until the second owner.

Not sure how the market is on other makes, but jeez, 4runners seem to hold value better than they should IMO. I payed 42k out the door for a brand new 21 base OR, nuts to think a premium only lost a few thousand dollars in 42k miles.

 

You're going to be fine in inclement weather but note that it will be in 2WD most of the time so it won't be as surefooted in the wet as a Limited with full-time 4WD or many AWD cars.

In October I bought a '21 SR5, 21k miles for $40.5k out the door so sticker was maybe $37-8k-ish?

I'm not sure the off-road bits are worth the extra but I did get a model specifically without a sunroof. The dealers around me had new SR5's pretty much starting at just above $50k after they were done with them so worth talking to a handful of dealers but I can't say it'll be fruitful. SR5's are plenty capable as-is too.

I saw you wrote "certified from dealer" and that might mean Toyota CPO which is nice, but I suspect it means the selling dealer "certified" it which might just be no different than "used".

Also look to see if the ones you encounter were rentals, most seemed to be when I was shopping. I definitely could have saved a smidge and gotten a TRD Off-Road trim if I went ex-rental but I wanted my sunglasses holder and not that history.

Either way you'll want to look at it closely.

 

Thank you @icebear and @McSpazatron

Really appreciate the input.

@McSpazatron The dealer told me that it was bought from them and then recently traded back into them. Had all their work done at that dealer so Im sure i can look at the repair orders.. THe dealer has it listed as Gold Certified.. So I dont know what that means. Have an appointment tomorrow with them.

 

The 4Runner is very capable in 2wd, and the fact is...most people don't need 4wheel drive (unless you're rock crawling or digging yourself out of a mud/sand rut). I have been on trails that a Toyota Camry could tackle.

With the proper tires, your 4Runner will handle most (but not all) trails. If you're rarely going to off road it, or be a mall crawler, stick with a 2wd model. You'll save thousands.

 

OP where are you at?

To whoever suggested the OR versus ORP, those are damn near unobtanium depending on location. I looked for one and couldn't get one, dealer couldn't even trade for one.

Re: 2wd / 4wd, I disagree with the above poster. Despite the price delta, the 4wd is a better buy, as it resells for more, and is supremely more useful. In fact I would wager that most buyers of a 4Runner wouldn't even consider a non-4WD version. If 2wd is what a guy wants he really should not be looking at a 4Runner - there are better options.

That said, locally you can get a new 24 ORP 4WD with specialty color for $45,900. My boss just bought an ORP in Underground for less than that, actually, with the military discount. I think for the price delta between a used later 5th gen and a new one you are better off getting a new one.

 

I paid $46k for mine, it's a 2023 and it only had 11 miles on it when I bought it.

 

Welcome.

Not a great deal. You can get a new 2024 base SR5 4WD, at invoice, for about $39k-$40k before fees. Adding you own lift is not expensive and easy to do.

 

@MeefZah I am in Oregon

 

Ah, well that may change things a little but MSRP should still be MSRP regardless. Hell, in Oregon there's no sales tax IIRC so buying new is even more appealing.

I wonder if the OR is more prevalent on the west coast... when I lived out there I had no problem finding an OR but here in the midwest new ORs are hard to get.

 

Yeah new is very appealing but close to the budget.

 

Nobody in SoCal had a OR when I was looking. To complicate things I wanted an OR, no moonroof, w/ KDSS and in silver. Every dealer I talked to said good luck finding that Unicorn. For some reason Toyota made one and was shipping it to the east coast. Fortunately a friend at my local dealer was able to get it for me. I'm very grateful to have lucked out and gotten my Unicorn!

OP, are you sure you want the Softtek (or Softcrap as I call it). It isn't leather by any means and I personally hated it so the OR trim was for me.

 

Find the one that has everything you want, get it looked over by an independent shop and buy it and don't second guess it if it checks out. If you have any experience, get under there with them and look it over. These vehicles are really solid. I was told stay away from fleet vehicles ... I had it looked over thoroughly and it was the model and color that I was looking for at a decent price ... I bought it. I have had 0 issues with it that weren't from my hand or random highway shit flying at my windshield or poking holes in my tires and couldn't love it more

 

Not for the wife.. But she has some input and I don't hate the fake leather. I have a dog that sheds a lot and fabric seats are terrible with that as well. Ill keep looking.

Really liked a 2021 ORP with 44k miles and Toyota Gold Certified and had one owner. Great service history as well. It does have a stage 1 iebach pro lift already on it. I have an appointment to test drive it tomorrow. They said its $42k out the door. I still have not negotiated at all so Im not sure if I could ask for another 10% off or if that's just crazy talk??? I have attached the photo

The more research I do... sounds like you should never really lift the trucks or us a leveling kit. Ill definitely look to see if the pan hard rod has been adjusted for that lift.. But all this talk kinda scares me away from a used lifted 4runner.

Just really like that aggressive look. But maybe I can git some 33's on it at stock height and that would kelp? Let me know your thought on the truck..

 

Definitely will.. do you think that is over priced or are 4Runners not taking the hit like all other trucks are. Is it a buyers market or just can’t expect 10% off asking price on used trucks?

 

Do lifts and leveling kits just guaranteed to wear things down faster and have a lasting impact… ? Just a matter of time?

Should you only lift it if you off-road and just know you’ll spend money on repairs? Again just like the look of one leveled or a small lift to it.

 

Hahaha.. no no. The situation is not even close to what you said. She doesn’t care about real leather. She just agrees with me about the fake leather over the fabric seats. It’s my car and I’ll get what I want. Just saying I’m leaning towards a premium over a regular SR5 or OR

 

I wouldn't be too concerned about repairs with a modest lift.

You can get a more level appearance with a 1"-2" lift in the front only.

 

That's a great looking truck. Whichever you decide leather, fake leather, cloth, you can get those slip covers for the seats to manage the dog hair. I have the fake leather (SofTex) and I love it. It wears so much better than real leather.

I added more aggressive tires to my truck the same day I bought it and it made a HUGE difference. It came with Dunlop "street" tires. I stuck with the same size 265/70/17's, and was impressed how much larger and better they looked vs stock.

 

Thanks guys!!

I like the way yours looks with the more aggressive tires!!

 

Lifts of up to 3 in are generally fine (plenty of info can be found here on how to do it right). But if I’m buying a used 4runner with one, it would be me that’s assuming the risk of an issue related to installation or choice of parts. If everything else checks out, I would adjust my offer based on that risk. Even if the installation seems fine, and it drives perfect with no noises, I would still let the seller know that you wanted an unmolested factory-standard 4runner for the price they’re asking.

Maybe even throw in a comment like how surprised you are toyota would certify a used vehicle with such “crazy” modifications lol. I’m kidding, but not really. That’s all part of negotiations. If they don’t budge, ask them if they’ll pay for brand new OEM CV axles and driveshafts to replace the ones on the vehicle when they wear out in 6 months (don’t assume the CPO warranty will cover modifications). If they still don’t budge, tell them they’re trying to sell you a death trap and walk away. Just get ridiculous with them and have fun with it lol. If you’re not in immediate need of a vehicle right now, use that to your advantage to get the best deal on the best 4runner you can find.

By the way, all these things are really unlikely to happen on a properly lifted 4runner. But the higher you go, the more risk of premature wear.

 

This has a lot more done to it then a lift. Have it looked over good at by another garage. If it checks out and you like it, go for it. Eibach makes decent suspension so I wouldn't be worried about that if it doesn't look beat in the inspection. Fwiw I got my 21 OR for high 30's with around 40k on it a year ago with no mods. At 70k now with no issues other than maintenance and wear and tear.

 

Good catch, looks like aftermarket headlights, fang lights, and raptor lights. All electrical modification that do not have the best reputation for being trouble free long term (susceptible to poor installation, and poor quality that lead to electrical problems). The headlights, if they actually are aftermarket, are going to be the most expensive thing to undo. That stinks, because the original 2021 factory LED headlights, specifically, are probably the best headlights of all the 4runner years (Led lows, halogen highs), and they will be very expensive to replace from toyota.