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4.0V-6 longevity issues?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by EBray3230, Jan 26, 2024.

  1. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:01 PM
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    Yotaholic

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    Wheeling is not cheap. Change your diff fluids after serious water crossings too
     
  2. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:18 PM
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    One of my first mod

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  3. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:21 PM
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    What's that?
     
  4. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:35 PM
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    Diff breather for the rear diff. I have a Y connection for the locker as well. Front is not needed as it sits high enough
     
  5. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:48 PM
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    How does it stop the water from getting in? You drown the pumpkin in the water, water will get in somehow
     
  6. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:51 PM
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    How does the water get in other than through the breather? The pumpkin is sealed otherwise you’d kill your diff at the first puddle
     
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  7. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:55 PM
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    Maybe he doesn't understand how you have it installed...?
     
  8. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:58 PM
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    It’s a hose that is connected to the breather vent on the differential and that sits as high as possible (or higher than water at least) to let air in/out so water doesn’t get sucked back in when water cools the diff during a water crossing (like a scuba essentially)
     
  9. Jan 26, 2024 at 4:59 PM
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    This seems like a reasonable question from a newby. I’m disappointed that so many members chose to mock the original poster rather then take the question seriously.
     
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  10. Jan 26, 2024 at 5:04 PM
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    Yeah, I understand the concept, just don't need to do it in my case. But maybe Yotaholic doesn't understand that the fitment at the diff is watertight and won't allow water in. At least, that's what it sounds like.
     
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    The seal doen't help 100%, I am changing my diff fluid
     
  12. Jan 26, 2024 at 5:09 PM
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    Dude, you need to check your diff fluid from time to time, don't rely on that breather
     
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  13. Jan 26, 2024 at 5:29 PM
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    Meh. I drive through water a lot. No breather relocation either. No signs of water entry, so far. Only 108000 miles, though. Since January 2019.
     
  14. Jan 26, 2024 at 5:44 PM
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    How many times have you changed your diff fluid so far?
     
  15. Jan 26, 2024 at 5:46 PM
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    typically every 30k on vehicles I have owned, with no external leaks.
     
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  16. Jan 26, 2024 at 5:53 PM
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    Several
     
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  17. Jan 26, 2024 at 6:45 PM
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    Yea diff breathers relocations are not a necessity. More of an insurance sort of things. As long as diff temp is hot enough and water not cooling it down then water is not going to get in because air wants to go out of the vent with inside heat (air goes from high temp to low temp, high pressure to low pressure. Science…) It’s really when diff temps get cold suddenly due to water cooling it too much that it risks sucking the water in the diff. And then you’d definitely need to drain it and change the fluids if that happens
     
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  18. Jan 26, 2024 at 7:07 PM
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    You guys and your extended diff breathers. ;)

    If I need to cross deep water, I bring a boat. :)
     
  19. Jan 26, 2024 at 7:09 PM
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    I bring floaties and a rubber duck :D
     
  20. Jan 26, 2024 at 7:27 PM
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    I just drive in until I get nervous. Then I walk through with waders.
     
  21. Jan 27, 2024 at 6:33 AM
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    It doesn't seem the OP is too bothered - he's started two threads, with the initial post being the only input in each...
     
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    Just saw his other post about his 3rd gen with 400k. So maybe he is legitimately concerned about 300k+ mile reliability...

    That said, this is really an incendiary topic and should be treated as such.
    Hearsay, check
    Outlandish claims, check
    Literally asking for arguments, check
    Not contributing to conversation, check
     
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  23. Jan 27, 2024 at 7:29 AM
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  24. Jan 27, 2024 at 8:27 AM
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    i will repeat what I replied to the OP’s PM to me where it was stated I/we must not understand that “some engines can be rebuilt but not Toyotas”…

    My reply:

    You started a thread about over 300K reliability (framing it as a longevity issue) on one of the most reliable engines Toyota ever made for your first post on the forum (without introducing yourself or providing any context) and have not participated in any meaningful way in your own thread. You know exactly what you were doing.

    That is the mark of a troll until proven otherwise.

    …0.03% of all vehicles survive to 300K miles. I would not call that a longevity issue.
     
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  25. Jan 27, 2024 at 9:50 AM
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    Yeah the post title and the post itself had two separate issues. Engine longevity is one, and that’s pretty well known. But engine “rebuildability” is a separate thing.

    I guess it’s good to know it wouldn’t be worth trying to rebuild. Besides the cylinder wall thickness, I didn’t think about the vvti and how that could be its own headache with clearances and such.

    Theoretically, in a mad max type of situation that really justifies putting money into a vehicle that wore out it engine, there is a solution. I think we all know the answer to that problem :D The cockroach of all crate engines…

    Before anyone gags, imagine the fuel efficiency of an LS in a tired old 4runner. :anonymous:
     
  26. Jan 27, 2024 at 10:02 AM
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    3k interval with oem oil?!
     
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    Some of us have kids and mortgages and wives, I'm sorry man but I can't afford to change my oil every 3k and change my diff fluid after dusty trips or water ways. Overkill and naive I say. Toyota knows more about what your Toyota needs than you do, then they wrote you a manual.
    Diff breathers are a pretty common mod, I've seen many on here, not a bad idea if you like the rush of driving through water. The man seems to care about his diff, knows more about his diff than you, that's why he added a breather, I feel like it's possible that he likely does check his fluid / change his fluid as per manual.
     
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    Frustrates me when I see OP's start threads and disappear, and don't contribute.
    Reminds me of the famous BeachGirl thread with the rusty ass parts
     
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Jan. 2024: custom installed 2lb fire extinguisher between drivers seat and door -Feb. 2024: swapped interior lighting to diode dynamics led’s -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting -Feb. 13/2024: double ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. -3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Existing: 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens LED pods -May 2024: custom black aluminum grille mesh installed in front of factory plastic -June 2024: custom built powder coated dom sliders -Nov. 2024: thermo-plastic rear mudflaps -Dec. 2024: rear bumper cover clearance cut, sprayed newly exposed parts black -Jan. 2025: trailer hitch removal, relocation of rear led pods to crossmember New: -Exhaust pipe chop after axle -March 2025: new SPC upper control arms, bushings, balljoints. Raised front end 0.75” via Bilstein 5100 spring seat. -April 2025: Evergear bezel-less cube ditch lights 4 LEDs 40W 3.33A 4800Lm 328’ beam distance 30° 6000k beam angle shatter & crack resistant lens -April 2025: Evergear Ultra Series light bar 27-3/4” flood spot combo 60 LEDs 60W 5A 6000Lm 1227’ beam distance Dual row, dual beam angle 30°/60° April 2025: BULLY Rock Crawler Hi-Intensity LED Utility Lights, Pair 1260 lumens @ 15w (3 x 5w CREE) each 120° flood beam waterproof, dustproof. Under hood: -Blue Fire 6-Circuit Fuse Block w/ LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever In progress/in the garage queue: ~ Wanted - 80% OFFROAD Hitch Replacement Recovery Point, PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, 1" body lift, custom dom front bumper, winch, rear dom bumper with side hoops, kdss angle correction, C or D load 35’s, bolt on cat shields
    Thanks for quoting this reply, and adding to your confusing lack of interest or input in your own thread !

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  30. Jan 27, 2024 at 10:18 AM
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    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

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    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    The newer GM V8's with the cylinder deactivation are way too problematic for my preference. I'd much rather swap in a Lexus V8.
     

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