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What has made my 5th gen gear shifter super squeaky?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by djwantke, May 16, 2023.

  1. May 23, 2023 at 2:27 PM
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    @NOS4A2-1 ya bigtime, two days in a row, tonight will be three
     
  2. May 23, 2023 at 2:34 PM
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    Oh Okay, doesn’t give me much hope. But I’ll try the same.
     
  3. May 23, 2023 at 5:59 PM
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    Dealer looked at it too 125 K. It was coming from center console. Asked them not to tear it down. They sprayed penetrating oil. It reduced noise a lot but not completely eliminated. No charge from dealer.
     
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  4. May 23, 2023 at 6:16 PM
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    We're in this together boys! Lol

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  5. May 23, 2023 at 7:26 PM
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    @djwantke ... I wonder how much lubrication is in there at this point. Sounds like there is a gallon. Lol
    Did you try unbolting the NSS first?
     
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  6. May 26, 2023 at 11:32 PM
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    @EC15 it's not like I've unloaded a whole can on the thing, but yes I'm sure it's enough, stopped after two days actually.
    I have 12mm in hand, and was just looking at NSS YouTube video again. What's made me procrastinate is how the NSS gets hung up on the corroded shaft requiring pry bar and shit. I ain't got a replacement. I posted a photo of mine up in the thread.
    How did yours go? Before I even get my fingers in there to take the bolt off. Or is that you in the video LOL
     
  7. May 27, 2023 at 10:54 AM
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    It was a struggle. The old NSS got destroyed in the process.
    If it turns out to be your NSS, make sure you have a replacement on hand.
    Thats why I suggested to unplug and remove bolt first. (Leave the lock nut alone) If the squeaks stop, its your NSS. Proceed to destroy. :)
    I would wait for the squeaks come back before checking.

    That is not me in the video, I just found it.
     
  8. May 27, 2023 at 1:09 PM
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    Ahh okay so ur saying just unplug wire and take off the bolt, leave NSS attached to shaft. Then test shifter for squeak?
     
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    Yup
     
  10. May 27, 2023 at 2:08 PM
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    @EC15
    I removed the NSS wire harness and bolt.
    I would say the squeak definitely seems to be decreased overall, still just a little present in certain shift sections.
    Set up a video by myself from underneath, didn't take a video from inside.
    Could make the argument now the NSS should be replaced. Perhaps if the NSS was completely removed there'd be zero squeak?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=q34h9lqlqYE&feature=share9
     
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    Hope yours is easier to remove than mine was.
     
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    Yeah for sure. Do you think the slight squeak that still remains is something to be concerned about, or will go away will removal of NSS entirely? Regardless I'm thinking bout adding a dab of white grease in a few areas to finish the console, similar to what is on some OEM linkage in there
     
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    Whats NSS?
     
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    Mine was back to normal.
    I learned about the squeaky/sticky shifter as a result of the NSS as mine started to happen so I never bothered with grease or lubricants.
     
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    Much appreciated my man
    Where'd you buy yours?
     
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    No problem. I got it from Toyota.
     
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    Hey, I’m still following but sad to say I haven’t got into the console yet. We had couple of days recently with temps well above 80 degrees and on those 2 days my squeak was gone only to return the following day with lower temps. I’m just guessing the lubricant I sprayed under the truck just creeped in a little more. Just frustrating trying to pinpoint the source. I’m almost tempted to just replace the NSS and see what happens.
     
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    Easier to unbolt/unplug NSS than to take apart the console.
    Just to test for squeaks. Removing NSS is a different story.
     
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    It still squeaks after unbolting and disconnecting wire on NSS @EC15. Thats why I'm trying to get more proof that the squeak will disappear completely if I remove the NSS off the corroded shaft (and have to replace).
    Or is there something still squeaking in the console is my worry. The NSS is $275 CAD that I don't want to have to spend. I thought opening up the console was easy myself, so is unbolting and disconnecting too. Perhaps it's worth spraying penetrating lube on console components regardless after years.
     
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    Dealer sprayed penetrating oil in my console which greatly reduced the noise. So, I think it's both the NSS and console grease. This started at about 130K on a 2016 SR5P.
     
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    @EC15 welcome to beautiful British Columbia the most expensive everything on the continent, literally every category of the things. Well, 275 all in with tax from dealership, or should I say stealership am I right. Even more $ off Amazon.ca
     
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -K&N Engine Air Filter *NOW FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Wheel well hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
  29. Jun 5, 2023 at 4:58 PM
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    4Runner_Patrick

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    I will say this: Never visited but Discovery channel makes it look beautiful!
     
  30. Jun 5, 2023 at 5:08 PM
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    4Runner_Patrick

    4Runner_Patrick New Member

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    No spills in mine and it started squeaking about 130K. [16 SR5P]
     
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