4runner vs the new Ford bronco

Yes, until you rolled it.

 

I have owned three Ford trucks, two Rangers and a F150. I will never own another Ford vehicle no matter what they look like or all the hype that marketing can muster.

 

Nissan needs to bring the Xterra back, then 4Runner will have some proper competition.

 

Not to mention, that after the first two years of FJ production, Toyota sold as many FJ's in a year as Jeep sold Wranglers in a MONTH.

After the initial hype wore off, hardly anyone actually bought them because they're dumb, for all the reasons you mentioned.

 

It was a cool idea to try to bring back the old school Landcruiser in a way. But, Toyota half assed it, and it just didn't live up to the hype. Imagine a smaller 4Runner that somehow gets WORSE gas mileage! No, thanks!

 

A 2-door 5th gen would be cool enough to be honest.

 

I'd love to see Toyota do something like this. Maybe an homage to the original 4Runners.

 

I never warmed up to the FJ. I know it was a good and respected vehicle, but I just didn't like the styling.

 

That in mint condition would be worth a lot of money today!

 

I'm at the age that I will be considering a fast little sports car to feel young again and was vastly disappointed when I saw the new Supra in person...



The new Nissan Z is absolutely gorgeous!

 

Looks like a z3 and a mustang had a love child....I agree, it looks like they tried too hard on that one

 

I think there are different models of the Supra. I was behind one at Piedmont Country Club, I couldn’t keep up on a 25 mph road. It’s the sound! You can tell it’s boosted. Then I saw another later didn’t sound like much and looked a little different.

 

Never been a Nissan fan.

 

They do make some weird looking cars. But, they're kicking Toyota's ass in the sports car scene for the last 20 years or so.

 

There are a few special editions, but I think the drivetrain is the same. Could just be a different exhaust.

 

Same here but to me this is the pecking order;

Toyota > Honda >> Nissan >>> GM > Ford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chrysler/Dodge

 

I used to be a Nissan fanboy 20 years ago and owned a couple of Pathfinders, an Infiniti QX4, and a Sentra. Then, in the mid 2000's, the quality started going down quickly. My recent ex-girlfriend owned a Nissan Juke, then traded it in on a Nissan Rogue and had problems with both. I would put their quality on par with Ford or GM.

It's sad that the Nissan Pathfinder was the main contender against the 4Runner as a rugged body-on-frame capable SUV, then they decided to turn it into a generic unibody soccer mom vehicle. I couldn't even tell you what they look like these days as I don't remember the last I ever saw one.

They had the Xterra as their 4Runner fighter for a while and it became the official vehicle of the sorority girl around here before they discontinued it in shame.

 

Found the new Pathfinder. Looks like a Ford Explorer and a Subaru Forester had a baby. Totally bland and uninspiring.

 

It must be cyclical for them because in the 1980s, their m/o was to build a cheaper version of whatever Toyota built. And it was cheaper in every sense. Even a service advisor for Nissan told me that the simple things like belts and hoses were cheaper than Toyota’s.

 

It’s a shame. I used to ride around a lot in my friend’s first gen Pathfinder in the mid 90s. That or a 4Runner would have been my dream car back then. Their marketing of the current gen as some sort of return to ruggedness is such a joke.

 

I saw my first Bronco Sport today and was surprised on how small it was, like a Fiat/Jeep Liberty. They should have called the Sport something else, as it's no where the same size or vehicle as the regular Bronco.

Wonder if they got those hardtop roof's all replaced yet?

 

But, how can they capitalize on the Bronco name if they don't use it? Then, the "Sport" would have to sell based on merit rather than giving buyers a sense of nostalgia.

More in line with the "Renegade" as far as size.

And, thank you for the Ren and Stimpy reference!

Now I have to go on youtube and watch some clips!

 

I can't stop laughing!

https://youtu.be/oxZEZGmIT7s

 

After sitting on a Bronco reservation for the latter half of last year and deciding to get my 4Runner instead, I can safely say that I’m officially happy with my decision. Saw my first Bronco in real life last weekend. It’s larger than I expected, which I liked, but seemed somehow less refined and a little boring compared to my 4R. 2 days later, I saw the same color I was looking at with a soft top. Wow, I really dislike the soft top!

Now I have NO doubts I did the right thing.

 

I think you and I made the right decision. I had a Ford explorer for 10 years. I could have traded it in and bought a Bronco.
I also like the looks of the Bronco .....but I have doubts that the Ford will be reliable. The new fords have problems.
The explorer had exhaust issues. The Bronco has had the hardtop recalled already
I bought the 4 runner for it's design, usefulness, sport utility, and reliability.

 

Yeah, I feel the same way. I'm still following the Bronco launch and interested to see where they are in a couple years, but I'm very happy I picked up a 4R last year instead of holding out for the Bronco, which was sort of tempting. I drive around most of the time in Safari mode - side and back windows down and moon roof wide open, and that's close enough to a removable top as I need to get.

 

I don't get the whole attraction of the open top for off-road.

I bought a Jeep Wrangler a few years ago that came with a hard top. I removed it and put on a bikini top. Then I put one on the Jeep...

Living up here in the Northwest, there are about 3 months that you can drive around without a top. Of those three months, there is about a month where it doesn't get below 70 degrees when the sun goes down.

I would drive to town and do some shopping around noon when it was 80 degrees out, stop and have dinner with friends, and then start driving home when it was dark and realize that it had dropped to 50 degrees and I was freezing my butt off in shorts and a tank top going 65 mph down the highway towards home.

During the day, around town, it was a blast and I loved it!

But then going in the woods on trails, you had crap falling on you like branches, pine cones, and ticks. Plus, all the dust if you were with friends.

My folks own two Jeep Wranglers; one at their Idaho house and one at their Yuma, AZ house. Both are hardtops, automatics, with air. The AZ one is lifted and is taken out into the desert nearly every week. My dad has never taken the top off of either of his Jeeps. Too cold in Idaho, and too hot/dusty in AZ.

I still miss my Jeep, though...

 

Back in the 80's I had an original Bronco with a soft top and doors.
That was great, toss the doors the back and either put the top down or just roll up the back and sides.
The reason I went to soft doors was the door jambs were already rotted out and wouldn't hold the doors up.
Now off road where I lived back then meant mud. The Bronco stayed closed up for that.

 

Lately around here, Ive been seeing “max loan” jeeps roll out of the dealers with the stirrups for your outside leg. Kinda like highway pegs on an Harley, but for one leg…. Maybe thats the secret to full top off, doors off enjoyment? I saw a a Jeep with four people in it, all with a leg out. They looked like they were having fun.

 

Sounds like a great way to get a yellowjacket up your shorts and have your naughty bits stung. No thanks.